“From the moment Mac OS X was announced, one of its most compelling features for me was its ability to run Mac and Unix software at the same time. It meant I wouldn’t have to keep multiple systems around, booting into one or the other as needed. And now, with the release of version 10.2 (aka Jaguar), OS X is a better Unix than ever. Make no mistake: Mac OS X has been a real Unix from the start, albeit one that could actually run desktop apps like Microsoft Office, Photoshop, and BBEdit, and let you play Warcraft III and (soon) Halo. But now, Jaguar’s Unix underpinnings have been given a much-needed refresh.” Read the editorial at ZDNet.
Mac OS X: Look who Else is Switching
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I figured within ten minutes, someone would at least say “Jaguar is so cool”, “Jaguar is fat for me”, “Jaguar is really UNIX, didn’t the author check out Darwin?”, “Windows is so much faster than Jaguar”, “How is that x86 Mac coming up?”…..
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If only I had the money I’d be all over 10.2 like stink on a wet dog.
OS X gives us lots of reasons to switch – UNIX without all the nonsense usually associated with UNIX. I’m tired of messing around with XFree86 configurations, window managers, desktop enviroments, and software with crappy UI’s. I just want the madness to end!
Maybe $2000 into the future.
Lots of focus on the userspace and not a lot on XNU… this seems pretty standard faire. XNU’s thread support has drastically improved in Jaguar. Many of the pthread_* functions which were broken in 10.1 now work, and performance of threaded applications seems to have improved.
Of course, this doesn’t get mentioned, instead he mentions their version of Perl is obsolete…
I’m surprised there’s no mention of the JVM.
Macos X ‘s unix underpinning. The only thing to do is to join the Opendarwin project, get darwin sousrces and patch. IF you’re not gven cvs access write then you can just open bugs in darwin’s bugzilla and attach your patches there, some guy will probably apply it for you. You should join now so when Darwin 6.0 (ain’t sur on the numbering scheme) will be release you’ll be set to help. One of the upcoming projects is to bring UFS/Softupdates to Darwin.
http://www.opendarwin.org/bugzilla
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I would seriously consider it, if there was an x86 port
When OS X gets released on x86 and it is fully capable of running mac software, *nix software, and windows software. I will buy OS X. Until that date,I will stick with Windows XP and Mandrake.
Is released for GNU/free and will run on my C64, but with binary compantablity with PPC MacOS, x86 MacOS, A500, Acorn, BBC Micro, Win32, Win64, Win128, SPARC Solaris, x86 Solaris and BeOS I’ll buy it, but only if it runs as fast as a Sun Fire 15K. And not a day before!
I would seriously consider it, if there was an x86 port
Such a poor thing, the Darwin team could use your help. After all, if an x86 port happen, it WON’T be OPEN.
When OS X gets released on x86 and it is fully capable of running mac software, *nix software, and windows software. I will buy OS X. Until that date,I will stick with Windows XP and Mandrake.
The Darwin team would miss you… OS X would NEVER run Windows software.
Why not? you can run some Windows software under Linux with Wine. Why couldnt they impliment that directly into the kernal and have a new OS like Linmacdows?
Some of us use GNU/Linux because it’s free like in freedom. If you want to use closed source soft (and don’t give me the shit about Darwin, sure we all need a new underdeveloped BSD), just go ahead. Use windows, mac os, whatever.
But it’s takes more than a childish GUI to switch. Make MacOsX free and I’ll consider using it (on open hardware of course, I’m not stupid enough to pay way to much for old and slow hardware). Until then, who cares?
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Actually Darwin runs on x86, and the development is kept in parallell. So hack away!
“If only I had the money I’d be all over 10.2 like stink on a wet dog.”
Why is it that so many people have to throw around their FUD and assorted crap? Back in the days when I started using computers nobody complained about “proprietary” systems. We had Commodore C64, Schneider/Amstrad, Amiga, Acorn, and who knows what. It was a fun time back then. Each platform had their own magazine. I remember typing in all those BASIC listings and saved them on my cool cassette tape. These were the days when computing was fun…
20 years later. The Linux/OSS crowd has to post all the time that Apples just suck because they are not free (as in beer), not free (as in freedom), slow, expensive. What’s wrong with you people? Apple has stayed in business because they are pretty damn cool machines. OS X, while nothing to spectacular, offers something that appeals to a lot of people.
I don’t go to a Mercedes or BMW board and tell them to get a Toyota or Nissan. They pay for their overpriced “piece of crap” because they like it. To them it is worth their money. So why not pay a bit more for Apple? It definitely is worth it. And this comes from a guy who never even owned a Mac.
Apple is doing just fine being what they are. Why would they need to change their business? It is a free society, last time I checked.
Are you mad? Maybe Apple should come clip your lawn for free as well? And give your car an oil change for free? How about that? Maybe if we all did everything for free, then we would all be rich. We would never have to work again, because everything would be free!
Apple has to pay programmers to develop OS X, and I think it’s only fair that they have some control over it. If they gave it away for “free” (free as in GPL freedom) then nobody would pay for it. You do understand how this would be the _worst_ business plan in the world, right?
> Why is it that so many people have to throw around their FUD > and assorted crap? Back in the days when I started using
> computers nobody complained about “proprietary” systems.
> I remember typing in all those BASIC listings and saved them > on my cool cassette tape. These were the days when computing > was fun…
I think you just answered your own question.
2 C64 mentions, but come on, we can do better!
C64 For Ever, Stick Amigas Suck! 😉
Heh, it is so funny to listen to the Linux people.
They want everything for free, which is why there is no where near the development for Linux as other OS’s.
Oh sure, there are tons of programs and such, but not the real productivity applications. No one wants to build apps for a community that thinks everything should be free and isn’t willing to put their money where their mouth is.
Should OSX be free? Heck no! Apple needs to generate revenue so that they STAY IN BUSINESS. Remember the dot com bomb? Alot of that was because idiot VC’s gave money to these nutcases who thought they could build a business plan around giving free products and services.
Revenue generation is critical to product success.
Oh, and on the topic of Mac HW being crappy or to expensive.
The Total Cost of Ownership (TOC) is lower for a Mac, the lifetime for the HW is longer. A PC becomes obsolete much sooner than a Mac. There is nothing wrong with the quality of Mac HW either.
– Kelson
I think you just answered your own question.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean? Do you think PC users are jealous because computing on the Apple side of things is fun? I must admit – being a PC user – that I really like some things about the Macs. Maybe once I get a job I’ll get an iMac
Anyway, I also fault Apple for some of the hatred between PC and Mac users. We don’t have to switch. Why can’t we experience both worlds? With dirt cheap PCs that shouldn’t be too hard.
BTW, who said that Mac OS X should be free? Free as in beer or free as in freedom? Either way I don’t think it is necessary. I guess I am just oldfashioned. I like companies that create interesting software and dare to sell it.
The Total Cost of Ownership (TOC) is lower for a Mac, the lifetime for the HW is longer. A PC becomes obsolete much sooner than a Mac. There is nothing wrong with the quality of Mac HW either.
Mmm, the old iMacs are to slow for OS-X and the CRT displays
suck… PC’s from the same age still run and are cheaper to upgrade.
[i]The Total Cost of Ownership (TOC) is lower for a Mac, the lifetime for the HW is longer. A PC becomes obsolete much sooner than a Mac. There is nothing wrong with the quality of Mac HW either.</>
Hmmm, I must be killing the TOC model. Could your mac with only a 166Mhz processor with 256 MB RAM run OS X? Propably not. Can my generic P1 166 Mhz with 256 MB RAM (7ns access time) whitebox computer run Windows XP Professional? YES! Did I have to upgrade my computer? Only the RAM, and a larger HDD
(Cost of RAM: $56.00 USD)
(Cost of HDD: $35.00 USD)
(Cost of moniter: $29.00 USD)
(Cost of machine: $500.00 USD)
+
(Cost of XP: $208.95 USD)
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{Grand Total: $828.95 USD
As you can see, I am way under the cost for a Mac. Does you TOC model work now? (Yes, I discount the cost of electicity, cooling, and transportation costs, but you get the point)
What’s the TOC for using italics all the way thru your post?
I’d say astronomical.
20 years later. The Linux/OSS crowd has to post all the time that Apples just suck because they are not free (as in beer), not free (as in freedom), slow, expensive. What’s wrong with you people? Apple has stayed in business because they are pretty damn cool machines. OS X, while nothing to spectacular, offers something that appeals to a lot of people.
I think they are wannabees. Most likely they are really Windows people. You rarely hear these attacks from people who know nearly enough to be productive on a Unix system. Unix people unlike windows people understand the difference between an application and part of the OS. A free open source OS that runs Xfree is just as “free” as any other OSS product. The fact that you pay $129 for a commercial window manager with features not found in free offering doesn’t change that. A unix person would understand that, windows wannabees would not.