Home > Mozilla, Gecko > Mozilla Updates Security for Firefox, SeaMonkey Mozilla Updates Security for Firefox, SeaMonkey Thom Holwerda 2007-03-21 Mozilla, Gecko 24 Comments Mozilla on March 20 released new security and stability updates for both versions of its Firefox browser and for its Internet application suite, SeaMonkey. The new updates eradicate a minor FTP PASV port-scanning vulnerability. About The Author Thom Holwerda Follow me on Twitter @thomholwerda 24 Comments 2007-03-21 10:35 pm raver31 Firefox updated on my Windows machine, however, it did not on my Linux machine. What can we conclude from that ? 2007-03-21 10:44 pm flanque Not sure what we can conclude from that apparent fact, but we can conclude from your comment that you’re trying to troll. 2007-03-21 10:59 pm raver31 Why would I be trying to troll when any fool can see from my last post, that I use both Windows and Linux. Muppet. 2007-03-21 11:17 pm flanque A lot of pro-Linux folks use Windows as a matter of necessity for various reasons. Doesn’t mean you aren’t trolling. 2007-03-21 10:56 pm leos What can we conclude from that ? Most likely that you are using firefox packages built by your distribution, which often disable the automatic updates. I run Debian, and the automatic updates don’t happen, but the updated package will appear in the package manager at about the same time as the update is distributed normally. I assume this is to keep updates consolidated, and keep the package manager in the loop about what versions of programs are installed. If programs suddenly all start updating themselves in different ways the central system becomes useless or error-prone. Windows doesn’t have a central system, so every application needs to roll their own autoupdater, which is a huge pain in the behind, both for users and for developers. 2007-03-21 11:02 pm raver31 Yes, I have Ubuntu installed and it runs Update Manager. However, Ubuntu have still not made the Firefox update available. 2007-03-21 11:09 pm gpierce It’s just a matter of time–usually a couple days. Greg 2007-03-22 6:35 pm systyrant Then I would assume that you could conclude that Ubuntu is the reason Firefox hasn’t been updated on your Linux box. 2007-03-22 10:57 pm raver31 Yes, yes it is. Sometimes I am a little slow. 2007-03-23 6:18 pm systyrant Sometimes I’m a little fast, but I always come to the same conclusion in the end. 2007-03-23 1:17 pm tspears I’ve found that the software updater app takes a while to refresh, often if I do an apt-get update or an aptitude update I’ll have several updates not listed in the update manager… 2007-03-21 11:01 pm smitty Firefox updated on my Windows machine, however, it did not on my Linux machine. What can we conclude from that ? That your distro disabled the automatic updates so that they control updates on your machine rather than Mozilla? I’m not sure where you’re trying to go with this. 2007-03-22 5:14 am vikramsharma You are absolutely right, many distros do disable the automatic update feature, so they can have more control. FOr example Ubuntu, you can update without any hitches on a fedora box, you might need to login or open the browser as root user though. 2007-03-21 11:01 pm shiny Firefox updated on my Windows machine, however, it did not on my Linux machine. What can we conclude from that ? That it is already up to date? 2007-03-22 1:03 am mark_in_rdjbrasil i can conclude one thing not mentioned, you don’t have a mac… 2007-03-22 9:08 am raver31 Sorry, your conclusion is incorrect. I do have a Mac, I use Safari as the browser on there. I do not use Firefox on my Mac. Edit…. I need to remember to spell browser like this; BROWSER and not like this BROSWER. Edited 2007-03-22 09:10 2007-03-22 4:07 pm B12 Simon That you prefer to play daft guessing games than just come out and say what you think? 2007-03-22 11:15 am mark_in_rdjbrasil ok, it helps all of us to make good and wise decisions when we have all the facts. but you did not mention the mac fact in your previous post. 2007-03-22 12:42 pm SirYes What can we conclude from that ? That Mozilla obviously doesn’t work hand-in-hand with multitude of maintainers of Linux distributions. So Firefox is officially released in binary form for Windows (with auto-update), Mac and Linux (with auto-update generally turned off). For everyone else there is the source tarball. Users that rely on distributions providing them with convenience method of install/upgrade (ie. new packages) have to wait some time. Meanwhile maintainers have to recompile the “holy” source code and create the updated packages. True, this leaves some window of opportunity for black hats to impose security threats for Linux users that are also Firefox/Iceweasel users. But this is IMO the cost of convenience. The implied blame should mainly go to Mozilla Corporation, and not to distribution maintainers alone. Mozilla is their upstream vendor, and maintainers take only the source code from them. That’s the Mozilla’s release strategy and either users have to accept that (and wait a while for distribution specific updates) or download the official binary build and unpack it in, say, /opt (returning to manual handling of updates). The latter case works decently well, but one has to remember about updating their shortcuts in order to use the improved version of the program. 2007-03-22 4:26 am edwardyawn You are all trolls. 2007-03-22 5:18 am kpig firefox updated on win xp and 2000, not on osx, linspire or ubuntu…lol 2007-03-22 5:51 am DanM Linux i686 statically-compiled Binaries are available at http://ftp.mozilla.org — Fully internationalized. Now I don’t know if they self-update (hope so) but they are there the same time the Windows ones are. Won’t even mess with your distro’s packaging system. /Just Sayin’ 2007-03-22 1:04 pm Kroc Damn, I’ve just realised I’m still on 220.127.116.11, why wasn’t I even notified last time, and why does it still say no updates when I check within the app manually. I suspect it’s because I’m using an en-GB build and Mozilla still haven’t pushed that update out 😐 2007-03-22 1:41 pm Bobmeister Huh? This conversation is ridiculous….as if nobody has anything better to do? The linux, Mac, Windows fixes are released equally and at the same time. Distributions, as it has been said before…update them when they get to it and push there modified versions out when they are ready, of course, it will take a little time. I use the vanilla versions of Firefox in all of my computers and the updates come through just fine…and how that is handled depends on how it’s installed and how you have your preferences set. Mozilla isn’t to be faulted for anything…they come out with the code and put it on the FTP’s…that’s it. In my case…I install the binaries in the /usr/local and it’s owned by root…so naturally…a regular user won’t be able to update it. So…big deal…you start it up as root now and then and do the update. WOW…tough. This update fixed some regressionary bugs that cropped up with the 18.104.22.168 security fix. See? They fixed it. I’m not a troll and give credit to anyone that fixes code. None of it is perfect. MS deserver credit when they fix code. Why do so many people complain? People, if they are running software, should at least understand what method they used, and what versions they are running, especially for us Linux geeks. Grandma might not know…but crap…don’t we all maintain Grandma’s computer? Firefox is a fine browser, and I’m glad that they support it the way they do with frequent fixed and updates.