The much-anticipated release of KDE 3.1, originally scheduled for this week, has been delayed, most likely until early next month. In the meantime, what was to have been KDE 3.1 (with some of the security audit completed) has been re-tagged as KDE 3.1 RC5 and is now available for testing.
KDE 3.1 Release Slips to Next Month, KDE 3.1-RC5 Out
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The first thing I did with my RH8 installation was put KDM back in place, dump bluecurve, and restore my KDE way of doing things.
My only remaining want for KDE apps has been tabbed browsing in Konqueror – so when 3.1 is done – I’ll be in desktop heaven.
Yeah!
There are so many bugs aside from those secuirity holes. Konqueror,a core part of KDE has 925 bugs alone!
And from this bugs 663 will make viewing some obscure web-pages fail. Very severe bugs indeed. 😉
At this time KDE3, is still very unstable for everyday use.
I hope they have managed to speed up KDE…
You know – Clicking on the konqueror (for example) icon, and then having to wait up to three seconds till it actually appears, just isn’t acceptable.
Hell, it’s the reason why I keep on going back to windows.
I’m using KDE 3.1 RC2, and stability has been great. The only problem is the occasional Konqueror bug, mostly when closing the program. Speed is pretty good overall. The performance of the widget set (I use Liquid) is surprisingly good, especially given the eye candy. Redraw speed is also pretty good, most apps don’t visibly redraw, and the ones that do only show a little bit of scroll-bar rubber-banding while resizing. Startup performance can be an issue (Konqueror takes 1.5 seconds to start up on my 2GHz P4) but prelinking almost eliminates the linker overhead, which should bring it to under a second, about the same as IE.
Grant you are only complaining about 3 seconds, try close to 10 seconds.
I have a k6-2 450Mhz, 384MB RAM.
Windows Explorer = instantaneous.
Konqueror = Go back to windows.
Couldn’t they have done a side project where they developed only a file manager and designed for people with slower computers.
Anyway from 3.0 onwards I believe performance will be worked on so everybody can be happy. (I hope?)
There is something strange about KDE performance. It’s non-linear. On high-end machines, it’s as fast as WinXP, but WinXP blows it away on lower end machines. I think there might be a memory or disk bottleneck that’s far more important than the CPU bottleneck.
“Dirk Mueller, the KDE 3.1 Release Coordinator, explained that the delay was caused by a security audit of the 3.1 CVS tree.”
Giving priority to security is a nice thing, and I’m sure the release will be very good. I’m not sure about the bunch of bugs thing, but I haven’t heard any comments on that issue in any KDE related forums. Seems like it’s going nicely, apart from obscure bugs that are not major blockers at all.
Even if it was linear, you perceptions aren’t. Assume for simplicity kde is 5 times slower than windows, and computer A is ten times faster than computer B. You can’t feel the difference between 0.05s and 0.01s but the difference between 0.5s and 0.1s is very improtant. 0.5s is slow, felt as non-responsive while 0.1s is instantenous. There you have perfectly linear change with a perfectly distinct subjective performance.
I’m posting this from a PII-400, 256 MB machine. Konqueror loads in about two seconds, as does KWord and other KOffice apps. Mozilla takes around ten seconds. Under Windows on the same machine, IE takes somewhere between one and two seconds, and Mozilla takes about five seconds.
It’s amazing, but every distro does something (different things) right. I installed Yoper (yoper.com) yesterday and it was fast. Konquerer starts instantenous, but my internet (cable with proxy) and my graphic card were not setup right. I know with some hacking, i could get it right, but i’m just not interested enought to start reading, messing with that stuff.
Redhat did the fonts right, but my internet wrong. Mandrake got my sound wrong, but the easiest install and easy partitioning. Knoppix is real cool as long you use the cd, but if you install on harddisk, no more automount (vfat partitions) and some other stuff. Damn they’re all so damn close, so my hopes are high for the future. By the way, Yoper uses KDE 3.1rc5.
Not really sure what you are talking about. I use KDE 3.04 every day and have never had a single problem. Seems very stable to me.
It may take a while after logging in (slower than Gnome), but after that things are extremely brisk. The only problem I experience is screen redraws if I drag a window around quickly. I think that is Xfree’s fault (Savage driver).
Konqueror starts in 3 seconds. I have a PII-M 1.06 gig, 256 meg ram. SO basically it also have a significantly slower hard drive than any desktop.
I have tried Gnome and prefer the layout and general look, but it is no where near as useful.
I tried one of the KDE 3.1 betas a while back and it has some cool new features.
To any KDE developers out there – YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.
Hell, it’s the reason why I keep on going back to windows.
Well, you do that then. I have the patience to wait 3 seconds. Specially when I can have my desktop function the way I want it to. When I get impatient I recompile.
What’s the matter? They’re giving you the source. If the software is capable of performing to spec then you are the limitation.
P.S. I don’t recommend recompiling by hand.
ELF prelinked KDE 3.1rc3 is awesome…. everything takes off like it’s on speed.