Home > Linux > German Town Dumps Windows for Linux German Town Dumps Windows for Linux Guest post by Kevin Adams, sumbitted by Nicholas 2002-12-17 Linux 34 Comments Nicholas writes: “More signs that open source software has big appeal in Europe as a small town in Germany has opted to move its entire IT base over to SuSE Linux. Read the full story at InfoWorld.com.” 34 Comments 2002-12-18 1:50 am NEWSFLASH: IRAQ DROPS ATOMIC BOMB! Read more here: http://nytimes.com Do you get my point? A link isn’t very useful if it just links to the front page of a website. 2002-12-18 1:51 am http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/12/17/021217hngermany.x… That might be a bit more useful. 2002-12-18 1:58 am “Read the full story” Click on full. It’s called a link. See, it goes to the right page. Plese read the article before posting on it. 2002-12-18 2:00 am On Opera all I get is one sort-of link. But everything links to infoworld.com. It does sort of look weird, though. Anybody else on Opera 7 who can verify that I’m not going crazy and it does indeed look screwed up? 2002-12-18 2:08 am Could you email me a screenshot because it looks fine here and I don’t see anything wrong with the html code. 2002-12-18 2:31 am It’s great that they’re doing so, but I really don’t think it’s that bigger news. They’re only changing over 100 PC’s for now, which isn’t exactly going to put a major dent into M$’s monopoly. At least Suse is up to the task of running a small town. 2002-12-18 3:14 am Hey man ‘you are going crazy’ (just kidding). I’m using Opera and the link is very visible to me. Maybe it’s a problem with your links color. Check out Preferences/Fonts and Colors/Link style: My link style. Choose there a more visible color and/or have links underlined also. I’m very sensible, it almost gives me a heart attack that atomic thing about Irak that you wrote, ufffffffff. SCHWÄBISCH HALL, you don’t know where you are getting into, Gerhard Schroder could not be immediately reached for comment. 2002-12-18 3:49 am They’re only changing over 100 PC’s for now, which isn’t exactly going to put a major dent into M$’s monopoly. It sure isn’t. But it’s a small step forward, and it might encourage more towns to do the same. If all goes well, they will be a good example to others that are considering switching to some alternative platform. 2002-12-18 3:56 am OSNews was so interesting in its infancy. I hate to see this Linux political bullshit creep onto the site. COUNTRY OF BULGULULAGONGA MANDATES LINUX USE! China uses open source! Blah blah blah. Back in the good old days, OSNews had articles about boilerplate technical issues. It compared scheduling algorithms, or linked to introductory OS building tutorials. It is this kind of constructive material I am nostaligic for. There may not have been 20 new articles appearing every day on the site back then, but the quality made up for the lower quantity by a long shot. 2002-12-18 4:22 am When I was a young boy.. let me tell you back in the good old days… I used to program on a Trash 80 when getting online meant dialing up the BBS at 300 baud and you had to put the telephone receiver in the coupling. They talked about technical issues like how to hotwire my Atari 800 to use 64k. yeah..yeah.. There was a technical article just the other day something like a primer on building your own OS. You just got more cruft in between. I actually think the site does a good job of listed stories about all kinds of different OSes. Why is it political bullshit when an MS XP media pack made the news right underneath? Linux is alternative OS man. Anytime an ALTERNATIVE OS gets any endorsement by a government or official endorsement by a big company it makes the news. When OpenBeOS puts out a big annoucement or the Amiga PCs hit the streets hard this will make the news as well. Why? It is called OSnews. Don’t worry the mac zealots, Darius and the Pro-Redmond horde and the linux freaks are about to descend upon the thread and start arguing about which OS sucks harder. I think the articles are fine just the level of comments are getting worse. 2002-12-18 4:38 am “OSNews was so interesting in its infancy. I hate to see this Linux political bullshit creep onto the site.” A strongly agree with this point. 2002-12-18 5:00 am I dont care what you guys think because i like this stuff… i know that i am a newbe to the linux vs windows stuff because i dont seek it out and this site is the only site i check for os news… so anything they put out i like… so what if it’s something you dont like… dont come in here and talk about it… go to the forum where you can make a thread for it… not here please… good night… 2002-12-18 5:02 am OSNews was so interesting in its infancy. I hate to see this Linux political bullshit creep onto the site. its still better than slashdot or theregister. trying to find balanced, interesting articles there is like panning for gold in the atlantic. i wish i didnt have to read some of the stupid comments people make, though… what do people think on threading this page? PS: go schwabish hall! if they really can save over $100,000 its only a matter of time before others follow suit. i just hope we dont swap one harmful monopoly of microsoft for one of linux… 2002-12-18 5:55 am The MS empire has failed to keep Germany small town map, could somebody send a email to Emperor Gates? His majesty will be pissed off about this. 2002-12-18 6:02 am Matt wrote: go schwabish hall! if they really can save over $100,000 its only a matter of time before others follow suit. i just hope we dont swap one harmful monopoly of microsoft for one of linux… Schwaebishe Hall is an enchanting little town, dominated by its majestic church. Clusters of wooden buildings cling to the sides of a steep valley with a stream running through it. It’s located near, well nowhere, really. The mortgage company named after the town, is more famous than the town itself. So is this story “Worley, Idaho city finance dpt. abandonds Lotus 123 as standard spreadsheet.” ? No it’s more than that – Schaebish Hall is not an isolated case. There is now a growing momentum in German government towards using and supporting free software where possible. That in turn is raising the credibility of FS in business throughout the Eurpean Union. The EU is in turn funding many innovative F/S projects – see DeMuDi/Agnola for example. Is this just Linux political bullshit ? No, OSNews is about reporting system software innovations. Given that one O/S has near monopoly of business computing it is surely hugely important that at last that monopoly shows signs of fading. Independent software developers have an increasing chance of seeing their creative work used in business and government. Once the software is in place their ideas on freedom and the dangers of private law making might also begin to gain attention. Although Schaebish Hall might be an odd case to highlight, it simply represents a significant trend. A. 2002-12-18 6:12 am The more you tighten your grip, Lord Gates, the more systems will slip through your fingers! 2002-12-18 6:21 am Great news but I would rather see a different subject line. “Adobe and Macromedia anouncing development for Linux” Thats the time I’ll switch. 2002-12-18 6:27 am Thats the time I’ll switch. And millions of other users too. As for me, I have already switched 2002-12-18 6:58 am Yeah, what Linux needs is a apps like Dreamweaver, Illustrator (Sodipodi is good though) and Photoshop. Especially an app like Dreamweaver would be very welcome for web designers, they cannot switch right now, even if they wanted too (sometimes you gotta have WYSIWYG). 2002-12-18 7:05 am “Microsoft could not be immediately reached for comment.” You know? I would love to be a fly on the wall about now. [J.Petrahn] “Great news but I would rather see a different subject line. ‘Adobe and Macromedia anouncing development for Linux’ Thats the time I’ll switch.” Then I guess you’re going to be waiting awhile then. In the meanwhile there’s the Gimp,and SVG,SMIL along with a raft of other W3 “standards” to build upon. 2002-12-18 7:30 am all this talk of switch….it’s just plain stupid. i don’t know a single person whose technical skills that i’m in awe of, that has switched….to anything. they all run multiple platforms. the reasons for doing this are countless. in a forum like OSnews…it should almost be a GIVEN. Those of us who come to this forum should be interested in multiplatform, OR already doing it. I for one, believe that people that know two or more platforms have advantages too numerable to list. if we are debating, here, whether or not multiplatform proficiency is a good thing..then hell, why even bother with OSnews? just have separate web sites….NIXnews, WINnews, MACnews. The ground work here should be that multiplatform is “A GOOD THING”…all things at this site should build on that. besides…there are already a million websites for the individual platforms. if you want to champion a cause, go to those websites and talk to people who will agree with you and give you those “virtual” pats on the back…or go the opposite camp’s website and put on your fire suit. Why anyone who is a single platform proficient (and wants to stay that way) even bothers with this site is beyond me. if you are a mac user…i encourage you to get yourself a cheap pc, and install windows, or x86 solaris. if you are a windows user, dual boot linux on second partition, buy a second drive and install freebsd, or buy a used mac. if you are linux only…get a used mac, dual boot it with yellow dog linux, or install xp on a second partition. check out some used cisco gear and start learning cisco IOS. don’t be a dinosaur. “hey hey back in the day…i was a CNE..now i’m a janitor” (i know CNEs that are no longer in the tech field, and i know CNEs that are CCIEs now. for those that don’t know CNE is a novell certification, CCIE is a CISCO cert.) THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS SITE. ONLY WITH A FEW BONE HEADED NARROW MINDED FOLK that are quite vocal.(you need to take your head out of your ass) 2002-12-18 8:02 am Soon the gates of the Land of Redmondor will open and the Dark Lawyers will be unleashed. They have a task from the Dark Lord himself: bring Open Source to him, whatever the cost. 2002-12-18 10:00 am Larog, Florida made the same choiche: http://dot.kde.org/995949998/ 2002-12-18 10:49 am I am getting sick to death of all the “Lord Bill Gates”, “Evil Redmond” What is it with everyone lately on here, just because a particulary bright geek manages to make it to the big time, shouldn’t we be celebrating? Jesus, kids. Come back Eugenia, all is forgiven!! 2002-12-18 11:45 am Like at: http://www.unleadedonline.net/images/misc/lin2k.jpg … actually KDE for me. 2002-12-18 1:17 pm The article is interesting because Linux is growing into an area that once it could not. Mainly because it now offers a desktop solution as well as server. Also Linux may be the next big OS which also means that other alternative OS’s based on the same distribution model of open source can start to thrive since before they would be choked out by lack of apps but now they can share code with linux. 2002-12-18 4:02 pm Oh I have no pity to the richest man on the planet. After all the money he has got, should he also get my pity? Bill Gates might have been a bright geek once but after he gave in to the Dark Side (…) his main ambition has been to get rid of all other geeks and their products. My fellow countryman Mr Torvalds still lives in a rented house. When he turns out to have become as rich as Mr Gates, the time has come to turn against him. 🙂 2002-12-18 4:53 pm >>My fellow countryman Mr Torvalds still lives in a rented house. When he turns out to have become as rich as Mr Gates, the time has come to turn against him. << So, once a person makes it successful you think you need to turn against them? That stupid. While attending MIT I met Linus Torvalds. While I admire Linux, he’s the most arrogant a–hole I’ve ever met. I see from the messages on most pro-Linux boards that his followers are the same. 2002-12-18 5:31 pm So, once a person makes it successful you think you need to turn against them? That stupid. Linus is succesfull and no that’s no reason to turn agains him, but if a person own 40 billion $, no matter who this person is and what good he has done, i turn agains him. Nothing, but really nothing justifie owning that kind of money in a world with so much miserie and i don’t even wanna talk about the other reasons to turn against BG. And no … i aim not agains windows as a OS. 2002-12-18 6:41 pm “Linus is succesfull and no that’s no reason to turn agains him, but if a person own 40 billion $, no matter who this person is and what good he has done, i turn agains him”, Grow up. Never heard of the Gates Foundation? 2002-12-19 12:08 am muis and what have you done for the people dying of AIDS in Botswana and other countries? Bill Gates, unlike you, WILL make a difference 2002-12-19 12:10 am This is not my original observation, but I heard people note that .net (the API aspect of it) is supposed to be the monopoly API (that runs on everything) to replace the possiblly disappearing windows OS monopoly. But I don’t think the world will be a sucker for MS twice, especially those parts of the world out of the U.S. 2002-12-19 4:26 am Actually, most of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation money didn’t go to the African AIDS crisis but to other projects like education, infrastructure, basic medical needs (did you know in rural Africa, getting chicken pox probably means death?), and other stuff. Which in a way is a good thing. At least they are not wasting money on something with a sure negative result (there is no cure for AIDS). 2002-12-19 4:29 am Actually, the world itself it a huge sucker to Microsoft’s products. Just in emerging markets, they can’t afford their products. But if Windows cost the same as Linux, which would they pick? Windows of course. When I was born, there was Microsoft, when I die, there would be Microsoft. Even if Microsoft’s influence on desktops OS cease, they would not die or go into obvilion.