Intel has announced that, once again, mass production of its 10-nanometer “Cannon Lake” chips will be delayed. The company is already shipping the chips in low volumes (though no one knows to whom at this point), but said it “now expects 10-nanometer volume production to shift to 2019 [rather than the end of 2018].” It announced the move in its first quarter earnings report, which saw it collect a record $16.1 billion in revenue and $4.5 billion in profit, a 50 percent jump over last year.
Ryzen 2 is kicking butt, and Intel is delaying chips. Must be fun to work at Intel these days.
they’re probably fixing meltdown and spectre vulnerabilities
(I know, a remote hope)
project_2501,
This is what I was thinking as well. They had issues with the microcode patches and software workarounds are ugly. A more permanent hardware fix takes time, which may have thrown off their production schedule. Selling a new generation of CPUs to customers without fully fixing these hardware vulnerabilities would create bad optics for intel (and everyone else too). Better to push everything back until the problems are ironed out!
/speculation
What about new 2nd gen Ryzen / I doubt AMD had time to patch Spectre?…
The microarchitecture was long finished and frozen, this has to do with the process technology, i.e. manufacturing.
Intel used to have a significant lead in node process, but they are now basically having to deal with a level playing field for the first time in decades. So this is going to be a very tough new environment for Intel.
*was* is the key word there … spectre and meltdown threw a wrench in it at the very least they had to redesign the IMC and start the whole validation process again, new engineering sample masks, testing microcode development etc…
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Yeah, but in this case the delay is from the fabbing side of things.
It’s is a well known quantity; intel has had a significant amount of difficulty with their 10nm (and now 7nm) processes.
Didn’t that get fixed in 8th gen?
6th gen better IPC
7th gen added more clockspeed
8th gen added 2 cores
Maybe something will change with gen9 like a fix for meltdown, spectre and maybe somehow a IPC improvement?
Built a new PC in the summer of 2016. It seems like I picked a good time too. I really wouldn’t mind if they delayed it another three years
Built an i7-4770 like aaages ago and still have no qualms about its performance. If I replace it any time soon, it’ll almost certainly be for Ryzen.
One year before you got 2 to 4 free cores from Intel and AMD? The only time worse than that seems the generation before Sandybridge which was more expensive and slower than Sandybridge.
So I looked to confirm how well it was doing in terms of on the shelf desktops. 1 brand name desktop (Dell), 1 refurbished model (HP), 1 gaming brand pc, and 3 of the store brand desktops. I’m still very concerned that AMD is going to leave the CPU market. It seems only fans from a brief time in the Pentium 4 era when they had a decent advantage are keeping this market alive.
From what I remember, even at AMD’s peak, Dell didn’t use their CPUs because AMD didn’t have sufficient production capacity to guarantee the supply volume Dell needed.
Well, using a Dell Vostro 3555 with AMD APU A8-3500M for more than 6 years now without a single issue. Had to expand RAM a bit and change 500MB HD to 2TB SSHD but it’s alive and kicking.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-Vostro-3555-Notebook.62073…
Dell used some AMD CPUs, but I bet Intel made “an offer they can’t refuse”. It’s the consumers’ task to elect superior products with their bills, not industry to decide for us.
AMD Peaked in the early 2000’s
And why have they “peaked” ? Because the Athlon XP was better than the Intel’s offering ? Looks like the Ryzen is actually better than the Intel’s offering, so…
Athlon XP and Athlon 64 – the latter was still in Pentium 4 era.
I know they use AMD CPUs *now*. I’m just recalling their answer to AMD fans asking “Why can’t I buy a Dell with an AMD CPU back in the day”.
At the time, they also didn’t sell any machines with Linux preloaded, so it’s entirely possible that Intel had nothing to do with it and they’ve simply done some reworking since then to make niche product lines more feasible.
Wasn’t that when Intel told Dell they wouldn’t get good prices on CPUs anymore if they started selling more AMD
That could also be it. I don’t remember whether that came later or not.
“Intel Reports Record First-Quarter Revenue of $14.8 Billion”
Yes, sounds like they’re in deep, deep trouble.
CPUs are boring, all the performance improvements have been coming through the GPU for the last 8 years. Get a Sandy Bridge CPU and compare it to a Kabylake CPU. The performance difference is ~10%. There’s almost no reason to upgrade anymore.
Perhaps per Mhz and without using AVX2, but overall the performance has improved about 30%, still very little for 6-7 years, when it used to improve some 400% in the same timeframe one or two decades ago.