The Inquirer reports that SuSE is ready to release its full X86-64 version of Linux, version 8.2, quite a time before the official launch, for the AMD Opteron architecture. Additionally, MandrakeSoft released their Mandrake Linux 9.0 version for Opteron recently. However, Microsoft has yet to set a date for Opteron 64-bit support, while it will roll out specifically for Itanium two high-end versions of its Windows Server 2003 operating system, its first major server OS update in three years.
SuSE Readies SuSE Linux 8.2 for AMD x86-64
2003-03-21 AMD 18 Comments
Maybe there will be a bunch of posts like this and perhaps the mistake is by SuSE, but should this site not post something so silly as to imply a Linux version 8.2?
It’s they way SuSE, Mandrake, Red Hat and all the other companies name their product..
Umm, no, most companies list it as “Red Hat 8.2” “SuSE Linux” etc, not just “Linux 8.2”. Stating it like this is very misleading and is very unfair to most every other company or project related to Linux.
SuSE is not Linux, SuSE is an OS that happens to use Red Hats package manager, GNU’s tools, and Linus’ Kernel. They also happen to charge you over $100 for YaST, a tool that does nothing but make your computer slower.
And now they claim to be “Linux”, they are not Linux, and they don’t even practice the Linux beleifs. Pretty funny, don’t tell me SuSE’s next OS is Linux 8.2, it is SuSE 8.2!
Note to editor: PLEASE change your text, thankyou.
No, I won’t, sorry. It is crystal clear:
“SuSE is ready to release its full X86-64 version of Linux, version 8.2“. IMHO, it is clear that the article talks about SuSE Linux, not Linux in general. The title also gives that information. I think you guys are nitpicking a bit too much. I suggest you go back on topic.
And it quotes Mandrake Linux 9.0 not more than 2 lines down. Raise your hand if you read this and thought the Linux kernel was now at version 8.2.
*looks around, sees dirty cloths, blow up doll, cold pizza, and keg cups*
Nope, looks like everybody got it.
Let’s take a more mathematical approach to this. Everyone knows about associativity, right? ie. 1 + 2 * 3 != (1 + 2) * 3.
Well, we’re talking SuSE Linux 8.2. The the “SuSE” term associates first with the “Linux” term. The result of this operation is fed to the “8.2” term. Thus, fully parenthetized, the statement reads: (SuSE Linux) 8.2.
Now, let’s analyze the second statement:
its full X86-64 version of Linux, version 8.2
“its” refers to SuSE, so the statement becomes:
SuSE’s full x86-64 version of Linux, version 8.2
“x86-64 version of Linux” simplifies to “Linux”, so the statement now reads:
SuSE Linux, version 8.2
“version 8.2” simplifies to just “8.2”, and we’re left with the original statement:
SuSE Linux 8.2
what can you do (about them)?
not a damn thing…cept ignore them.
Hehe;) That’s true anon *shrug*, but I enjoyed Rayiner’s breakdown. I couldn’t help but break a smile at it:) Reminds me of the way my old math teachers would talk to try and make sure everyone caught on… … after which everyone seemed to be interested in my answers for some crazy reason (hrmm…). Anyway, thanks Reyiner – I needed a good perk to my day:) Oh, and nice breakdown!
Did I miss SuSE 8.2 coming out?? So far as I know it’s not out yet for any platform, let alone x86-64
did you miss a ‘full’ in there?
“they don’t even practice the Linux beleifs”
Uhh, Linux beliefs?
Uhh, Linux beliefs?
Yes, aside from an occasional pilgrimage to the parents fridge upstairs (1st floor), it’s actually a very nice religion.
I’m gunna put on my hemp footy pajamas and go to sleep now, it’s late and I have a lang day of protesting ahead of me.
Our penguins do it in the basement – Linux
Good grief. not one on topic comment.
My hats off to the SuSe folks for the x86-64 version. About time someone pipped M$ to the post.
for suse or for mandrake ?
and any news from redhat on hammer ?
And anyone who partners with Caldera. But I think SuSE might be getting back on track. Its cool to see them recompile for X86-64 and go through all the work it would take.
I think of SuSE more as a company that sells yast and its configuration features, that just happens to run on Linux instead of an actual Linux distribution like RedHat that just offers support on top of a few patches, but gives away their unpatched OS for free. I guess SuSE gives away some eval version, but it doesn’t look very useful for me. Has anyone tried it?
Anyway I think SuSE doesn’t know how to properly design an OS, but they’re learning how to make it auto configure, easy to maintain and work out of the box. But even GNOME is writing their own GUI config tools. One day yast may be obsolete if it isn’t already. Linux just isn’t all that hard to use anymore.
The hard part is doing it the right way the first time. Even RedHat can’t get that right, but they’re getting closer with 8.x.
Slackware has been lightyears ahead at just getting it right, but its certainly not perfect. But at least its not cheaply and unprofessionally hacked in any way.
But only time will tell.</rant>
If MS can’t get 64-bit Windows out the door on time, motherboard vendors will just have to include the GPL parts of Linux with the MoBos… That’s just too bad:P
Too bad IBM doesn’t have a PowerPC 4 chip/mobo ready to go. After all, hardware refreshes every 6 months now. There’s no reason we should be waiting for our OS. If MS can’t keep up with the big dogs [or the flock of smaller, hungry, biting ones], they need to get back in the yard. With a little opportunity, they could push MS clean out of the server room–here it is! Why isn’t anyone taking it. Here you have a golden chance for all 3 big chip makers to gang up on Billy–and the best part is that they just have to release the parts “on time”, not even do anything mean!
May be it was Red Hat?
Linux Expo in NY was filled with shiny AMD boxes all running 64 bit. I have seen even application running there – like 64-bit Ingres.