Home > Mac OS X > Mac OS X 10.3 Panther No Longer Pre-Release Mac OS X 10.3 Panther No Longer Pre-Release Submitted by Patrice Bensoussan 2003-09-27 Mac OS X 36 Comments It seems that the release of Panther is not far away. The latest seeded build does not have the Pre-Release status in the About box. Additionally, Apple looks poised to refresh its famous logo. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 36 Comments 2003-09-27 11:34 pm I was getting anxious. I need to update my hard drive. 2003-09-27 11:34 pm While I like that they’ve changed from the X to the Apple in the about dialog (I think it fits better, for some reason), I don’t quite like the new logo. Don’t get me wrong, the silver/chrome looks good, my only complaint is the streak across it. I would like to see the logo without that streak, you know what I mean? I’m not very sure about that streak. 2003-09-28 12:34 am Its just a color/shading thing….surely its less important than the gaping gash running down the side of every Saturn Ion…? 2003-09-28 12:44 am I like the new logo 🙂 2003-09-28 12:55 am I like the logo a lot. I think the streak gives a more a unique look IMO. 2003-09-28 12:58 am for some reason, the first thing that came to my mind was: http://lekowicz.com/library/logohell/logohell.html 2003-09-28 1:14 am the only thing i want from 10.3 is good support for adaptech 2960n scsi controlle when i got that im satisfied 2003-09-28 1:40 am I like the new logo, I also like the new more polished look that’s in the screen shot. For the title bar at the top of the about box and the function buttons. It looks better, and more professional that they are all on color instead of milti colorded like older versions of OSX. However, I think Apple is overusing the brushed metal look. It looks okay for some things, but they use it way to much. For example, it makes the finder look uglier and less elegeant, IMOP. 2003-09-28 1:48 am Apple surely knows how to reinvent itself once in a while and they have some of the most creative dudes available out there in the payroll. I wish I could afford a Mac. 🙂 DeadFish Man 2003-09-28 2:00 am Apples graphics keep getting better and better. Personally i can’t wait to try out 10.3 Panther and Xcode to see how my Cocoa app looks and how much Mac OS X has improved. Overall it keeps sounding like Mac OS X is getting faster and faster. 2003-09-28 2:04 am And to add to what this person is saying in the following link http://www.chaosmint.com/macintosh/articles/mac-os-x-panther-about…. > It no longer says “10.3 (Pre-Release)”. There is also a spelling mistake in this screenshot (unless it is in a different language). 2003-09-28 2:08 am yeah, apple is metal crazy, not a bad thing, far better then white. White computers look terrible. Now a question on panther, is it brushed metal throughout? If so can you turn it off, or revert to non brush metal throughout? The metal look is fine for hardware and such, but it does not look good on apps. Does apple making everything brush metal defy their HIG, or are they saying the OS is emulating a real device, the computer it’self, so brush metal is ok 2003-09-28 2:10 am Just found out that our G5 Dualie shipped! Yes! Now Panther soon! Yes again! Life is good!!! 2003-09-28 2:21 am its good to be excited. i got mine thursday. its like a gift from god. 2003-09-28 3:21 am if i remember correctly, apple updated their HIG shortly after the panther pre-release at WWDC… i dont remember where i saw, i just know i saw it, and they had changed it to include not only stuff that emulates a device, a computer itself, or somethin’ like that but to include anything with a playlist (e.g., the new finder)… so thats the reason why the have brushed metal in the finder… (btw, u can get rid of the brushed metal in the finder by pressing the tab on the right corner of the titlebar; that should also switch your finder to a spatial finder; for other apps, u must use the hack demetallizer) 2003-09-28 3:35 am By the beatles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3105444.stm 2003-09-28 3:52 am I am glad to see there is a petition asking for a way to remove the brushed metal look. In my opinion it is hideous and would request that all apps have the ability to turn brushed metal off. 2003-09-28 3:54 am If you read your link, it’s not exactly the logo but the fact that they agreed that Apple would stay away of music business (witch they did until iTunes service). 2003-09-28 5:41 am I dont know if it is just me. But I personally don’t care about the new logo. As long as their os is spiffy and fast on g3 and g4 hardware because that is what I own. They can go back to their fruitful apple if they want as long as perfomance owns. Other then they dat they can always switch to a squirrl.. 2003-09-28 5:49 am Um, its not because of the logo, but the company name. If a company named “Apple” started selling operating systems and hardware, you can bet that Apple Computer would be up in arms! 2003-09-28 9:06 am It all comes down to the definition of the “music business” I am sure Apple would argue that they are simply a store (an online form of Best Buy) and not a competitor (ala Universal Music). Apple (music) doesn’t sell music to consumers. They make (made?) music and sell (sold) it to distributors. 2003-09-28 9:35 am meh… i fully expect them to settle out of this like the past two times they have gone to court; they’ll probably come to some kind of new contract plus, if apple, the music business, becomes to much trouble for apple computes, i m pretty sure apple computers can buy apple, the music business… however, i am not sure if thats an SEC violation or not… we’ll see how this’ll turn out… worst comes to worst, apple may just spin off itunes into a separate division of apple computer (like abc is to disney) and they can sell without violation of the contract, IIRC from an article i read… 2003-09-28 11:38 am I am puzzled too by all this fuss. I expected to read comments on the OS itself, not on some fruit or metal. Speaking of fuss, the Wired article pretends that Apple’s logo is one of the world’s most recognizable corporate symbols. Sorry to rain on anybody’s parade but how many people in Moldova, Costa Rica or Tibet would think about computers if they were shown that symbol ? 2003-09-28 11:49 am Yeah, but there’s a lot of other logos they wouldn’t recognize either; it doesn’t make the Apple logo less recognized. 2003-09-28 4:30 pm >”Um, its not because of the logo, but the company name.” It’s both: “The Beatles’ record label Apple Corps is suing Apple computers over the use of the Apple name and logo to promote music products.” The original logo even had a hippy rainbow. 2003-09-28 5:52 pm I think it was People Magazine that does the list of ost recognizable logo’s every year, and Apple’s was in the top 50 last time. Do you guys really think Panther won’t be themeable? Brushed metal doesn’t really matter if you can remove it. Duality and ThemeChanger and other apps like that will surely be updated to work in Panther. 2003-09-28 6:37 pm I’m not sure, but Apple already executes a certain free-spirited approach to the logo. There’s several types of style treatments floating around already. One being the flat grey version, and another being the “lickable” candy style buttons. It’s a very recognizable symbol and it just seems like they’re extending the style vocabulary a little. I don’t see this being the definitive “new style” they will switch to across all of their products and media. Wouldn’t be bad if they do make it the only style, however, but I don’t see it. — I really can’t wait for Panther. A lot of enhancements that I’ve been wishing for. Incidentally, anybody know how the new built-in font management is compared to say, Extensis Suitcase? 2003-09-28 10:48 pm I don’t think it’s a very recognized logo, it’s very generic. For years I always thought those apples on the back of cars were because the person was a teacher, since most teacher orginizations use that logo, then i found out apple people put those on their cars, why I simply don’t understand. I think if you put the Apple logo up most people would think it is some teacher group, not apple. The rainbow apple of the old days is pretty connected with them. The new one is not. Might as well use a Blue Duck. 2003-09-29 1:17 am I don’t think it’s a very recognized logo, it’s very generic. I don’t think they did a pole on whether or not YOU personally recognized the logo. But of out of the other computer brands it’s one of the most well known. That’s generally not saying much though, because your average computer users tend to have no clue what their computer actually is. 2003-09-29 2:04 am ******************************************************* But of out of the other computer brands it’s one of the most well known. That’s generally not saying much though, because your average computer users tend to have no clue what their computer actually is. ******************************************************* lol, this reminds me of that scene from the original star trek movie’s with william shatner when one of the crew members tries to use a computer and says to the Mac “Computer On”… the guy at the factory gives him a strange look and says you have to use the mouse… the crew member then goes on to use the mouse as a microphone; the scene finally concludes with him discovering how the mouse and keyboard work but muttering under his breath “such crude technology” lol 2003-09-29 2:23 am Negvibe, well if your doing computer brands then yeah, people will recongnize it. But that wasn’t what was being said, it was logos in general. 2003-09-29 3:00 am that wouldbe star trek IV when they go back in time to save the planet from some weird ass probe that is looking for hump back whales, but all the whales were sent to extinction long before (it was an 80’s political statement) the scene is when Scotty needs to get onto the computer at a plastics maker to get 6 inch think plexiglass for an aquarium to hold the whales when they transport them back to the future. he says “computer”….the owner, leaning over to point to teh mouse “you need to use the mouse”….then scotty says “ah, of course, the mouse” with an air of elitism about him….he then procededs to pick up the mouse, place it in front of his mouth and say “hello computer” in a friendly tone. the owner then says very tersly with a look that would tell you that he thinks scotty is a crack head “hear! like this!” and the scene cuts to Checkove and O’Hura in the USS Enterprise (the air craft carrier) 2003-09-29 3:44 am Look at your Apple menu in OS X.2. The Apple there has just about the same “shading” line. It’s not new, just more refinements and sublties, just like when they went from Multi-color to single colors to slightly 3-D. ACK! 2003-09-29 3:53 am Actually it goes: mcoy: perhaps he can use your computer? manager guy: please *points to it* scotty walks up to the computer which is an old mac scotty: computer? *mcoy hands him the mouse, scotty smiles and speaks into it* scotty: computer? hello computer! manager: Just use the keyboard scotty: a keyboard… how quaint 2003-09-29 5:21 am You forgot to add that Scotty cracks his knuckles pianist-style before using the keyboard. How did he know how to use a Mac? Surely they were pushed out of the schools by then by a Windows-centric IT department looking to cut costs. 2003-09-29 1:37 pm that is a good question. especialy since they access the computer by talking, you would think that all aspects of manual input would be gone. but even so, you do not need to use a mac to understand how to use a mac, just like you do not have to use a wintel to understand how to use a wintel.