Home > Opera > Opera 7.5 Preview 3 for Mac Released Opera 7.5 Preview 3 for Mac Released Submitted by Ron 2004-03-17 Opera 25 Comments Opera has released their browser for Mac based on the 7.x codebase. Changelog and a screenshot. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 25 Comments 2004-03-17 7:47 am To all nay-sayers: I have one thing to say. Use Opera for an extended period of time till you get used to the little details, and I would be extremely suprised if you choose any other browser and become comfortable with it without missing Opera. 2004-03-17 9:52 am Opera is wonderful, I don’t know whats about it thats so wonderful… Mozilla/Firefox is customizable but opera is just so… opera… this is always good news 2004-03-17 10:08 am That says it all really. I only use other browsers under sufferance now because while they try and imitate Opera features (decent tabbed browsing and mouse gestures to name two glaring examples) they don’t do it as well, they are heavier, slower and just don’t cut it. 2004-03-17 10:53 am It has (quite) allways been a great browser, one of the best. And this version includes Opera Mail, probably the most innovative mail client today. Yipee! 2004-03-17 11:15 am Now with the text ads, I don’t really notice them. But I’m heavily considering buying Opera for good, just to support them. Heck, $40 for this baby even in Preview (no bugs found so far) is worth it. 2004-03-17 11:22 am I´m very glad to finally be able to use a decent Opera on Mac again, yihaa! Mozilla Firefox is ok, but Opera simply rocks! 2004-03-17 11:31 am Exactly! There is only one thing that bothers me: the shortcut for a new page (tab) is the same that creates a new folder in Finder, and the usual “Command + T” that creates a new tab in all the other OSX browsers here adds a bookmark! Is there a way to change that? 2004-03-17 12:27 pm When I use Opera on FreeBSD, the impression I always get is that the programmers at Opera HQ know exactly what SHOULD and SHOULDN’T be in a browser. Mozilla should take notice. A browser is just that, a browser, not a contest to see how much crap one can fit into a single application. 2004-03-17 2:05 pm I don’t know if I sgree with that. Opera seems to have quite a bit of stuff included that a “browser” doesn’t need to have (i.e. mail client, chat, contacts manager) but the difference between Mozilla and Opera is that Opera, with everything that it has, is still very small and VERY fast. Mozilla 1.6 takes up 46.5 MB on my Mac and Opera 7.5 only uses 9.4 MB, and opera has many more useful features than Mozilla. 2004-03-17 2:13 pm I love opera, especialy the tabed browsing. I also used to love outlook, but now i work at IBM, and notes uses tabs (SDI). One day, all multi document apps will be tabed (SDI)… 2004-03-17 2:15 pm Buy one Opera license at regular price, and get a license for another operating system (OS) for free. http://shop.opera.com 2004-03-17 3:03 pm And one of the dtails is that it doesn’t behave like other OSX applications. Example: when you click on the Maximize button, it takes all your screen. Another detail (nothing to do with OSX behaviour): the horizontal scrolling bar disappear before you give a page its optimal width. A really good browser (even not being a cocoa app), with some little annoyances, but very stable and fast anyway. 2004-03-17 9:11 pm Hi As a former Opera user and now using Firefox I can gladly tell you that I like Firefox better. It suites me better regards Jess 2004-03-17 10:25 pm Opera is the best out there. I am personally rooting for three things to put it even further in the lead. 1) Some websites don’t display properly. It is rare, but I have run into two recently. Particularly odd is http://www.fedex.com, which does not (at least in 7.23) allow you to pick your country. 2) I would like to see inline spell-checking, ala Konquerer. 3) I wish TAB worked as a literal tab in multiline textboxes. (Also ala Konquerer.) I know some people may not care for the last two, so I think they would probably be best left as options. 2004-03-17 10:29 pm As a former Opera user and now using Firefox I can gladly tell you that I like Firefox better. It suites me better As a general observation which goes along with Rajan R’s post: Use Opera for an extended period of time till you get used to the little details, and I would be extremely suprised if you choose any other browser and become comfortable with it without missing Opera. …it seems most “Opera users” who migrate to other browsers generally are not leveraging the full power of Opera’s feature set. I, for example, cannot stand to use browsers without fast forward/rewind. Firefox with the All-in-One Gesture Extension is a fairly nice browser, but it takes a lot of customization of the gestures before I’m really comfortable with them. However, despite all the looking I’ve done, I’ve never seen a Firefox extension for fast forward/rewind. Browsing picture galleries by viewing a picture, then having to go back to the gallery index and select the next link seems ridiculously cumbersome after using fast forward/rewind… 2004-03-17 11:12 pm Browsing picture galleries by viewing a picture, then having to go back to the gallery index and select the next link seems ridiculously cumbersome after using fast forward/rewind… Of course. That why I middle-click all the pictures that I’m interested in, opening them in background tabs. After that, Ctrl-Tab or Ctrl-PgDn. 2004-03-17 11:30 pm Hi ” fast forward/rewind.” Use middle click on tabs. fast forward doesnt work on several href pages. You can use the navigation extension on firefox for the same effect anyway. I used all the features of opera and still find firefox better firefox is also a web development platform if you use the coneaform extension look at the huge amount of extensions http://www.mozdev.org/projects/active.html http://www.mozdev.org/projects/external.html Opera or any other browser doesnt come even close Jess 2004-03-18 12:42 am I’m a dedicated Opera user from about version 3 or 4 onwards. One reason (apart from price) I haven’t really considered a Mac was the lack of a recent version of Opera. The one application I use all the time. I’ve experimented with Firefox, and I like all the features that extensions offer. However they are generally not as smooth or nice as the similar features in Opera. They are nearly always slower & fiddly. That said Opera does have its problems. Firefox crashes less in my experience (not that this an everyday occurance with Opera). The mozilla based browsers are better supported. Many ofthe web development extensions for Firefox have no counterparts in Opera. After all is said and done the imminent release of Opera 7 for OS X removes yet another excuse to not buy a Mac. 2004-03-18 1:31 am Hi Some of the extensions can be problematic but remember that its just a technology preview till it reaches 1.0 regards Jess 2004-03-18 1:54 am Hi Some of the extensions can be problematic but remember that its just a technology preview till it reaches 1.0 regards Jess By your logic I can conclude that by 7.5 final Opera will be perfect in every conceivable way. But since Mozilla has chosen unreliable third parties to provide its features in the form of extensions, I forsee never ending problems regardless of it’s release number. It’s just a number! 2004-03-18 3:17 am all I have to say is: Finally. Thank you. 2004-03-18 4:09 am Jess: Use middle click on tabs. fast forward doesnt work on several href pages. You can use the navigation extension on firefox for the same effect anyway. What navigation extension, actually? There is none listed at Firefox’s page that boast that name plus fast forward/rewind buttons. Besides, rewind sometimes doesn’t work the way we wanted to, but the it’s only a couple of pages in difference. And once you get used to this feature, why would you want to middle-click it? Image galleries that are slideshows makes middle-clicking a little too cumbersome for me. An altenative, but not exactly as good or better than Opera. Jess: Some of the extensions can be problematic but remember that its just a technology preview till it reaches 1.0 So, Firefox is better than Opera, but we have to suffer some annoying bugs and conflicts just because it is a technology preview? Whoa. 2004-03-18 7:43 am Well, I use Safari all the time, and I also like Firefox. I’m finding Opera’s interface very difficult to get used to but maybe some of you guys here could help me out? A few things: 1. Command-shift-clicking has erratic behavior. If you’re in the right-most tab/page, it will open a new page with the link you clicked, and load it in the background. However, with things like image galleries or message boards where I want to open multiple links, all in the background, it will only do one at a time. It doesn’t open a new page for anything past the first click. It just keeps loading the most recently clicked link in the page that was created with the first command-shift-click. How do I get it to open many new pages, all in the background, through some sort of modified click? 2. How do I arrange the toolbars in the order I want them to be in? I want the location bar on top, with the bookmarks below it and the tabs/pages below those. But it insists on putting the location bar on the bottom, tabs/pages in the middle, and bookmarks on top. It works, but considering the level of customization, I figured you’d be able to change that as well. 3. How do I prevent the “panel” from appearing in new windows? I have turned it off, and turned off everything that could appear in it, but whenever I open a new page I have to hit F4 again to close the big, useless panel on the left side of the window. 4. Are there any banner ad-blocking extensions available? I’m used to Firefox’s AdBlock extension and Safari’s PithHelmet add on, both of which do a great job of blocking unwanted banner ads. Will I just have to block ad servers in my hosts file, or is there an easier way? I’m not referring to the banner ads that appear in an unlicensed version of Opera. 5. Is there a key command to switch between pages in a window? It would be nice if there was an equivalent to ctrl-tab from Firefox or command-shift-right and command-shift-left in Safari to switch tabs. Right now I just have to click on the correct tab. Thanks for your help guys. 2004-03-18 10:58 am Great news! Finaly I dont regret my migration from *nix to OSX, leaving Opera 2004-03-19 12:08 am Some interesting questions, but I doubt you’ll get any responses here. It would be better if you asked over at the My Opera Forums in the Mac section ( http://my.opera.com/forums ). I’m sure all your questions will be answered.