KDE 3, Beta 2 was released today after a short delay. There are packages for Linux and Tru64. The final release is scheduled early in the second quarter 2002, with one or more intervening “RC” releases preceding the final release. Just two weeks ago, Gnome 2 also had a second alpha release.
KDE 3.0 Beta2 Released
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GNOME 2 Beta 1 was due on http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/schedule/“>February . I wonder what’s happening there?
…if it only it wasn’t for the speed issue on my PII 300 / 160 ram – I still think it should be sufficicient to run a decent desktop env on. Ie Win2k and BeOS R5 both run perfectly smooth (especially the latter). OTOH BeOS doesn’t provide the same degree of functionality as the other two…
Let .NET, OBOS and Linux 2.6 / KDE 4 be a fair game =)
KDE3 is more of a tidied up KDE2 than anything else. So it should be fine on your p2-300 in comparison to say, Win2k. Win2k is awful. The speed increase I got when I increased from 256megs of ram to 396 was unreal. All of a sudden I could load Dreamweaver AND Photoshop at the same time without my computer having fits about it.
Huh?
Yes it requires a lot of memory but it’s the best all-round OS I’ve ever tried. It has many faults but less than any other mainstream OS.
I really hope that Linux + KDE3 is faster than W2K because that would mean an increase in speed by about 100% over KDE2. Honestly I don’t think it will be any faster at all.
If KDE is designed for the average user, then any one should be able to install it and not just experienced hi tech users. When will someone make something like a nice installation program which will resolve/download all dependencies for you automatifally? It is 2002!
But yeah, it is a free project..if I want such a setup then why dont I stop critisizing and just do it my self or do something usefull to help! Well I am doing something usefull! I am telling you what is missing as if you didn’t know and yet still no setup! Well, lets see by the time when KDE3 is released, whether they will be such automatic setup wizard.
Cheers
IMO it’s the packagers and disitributers that should provide means of installing the software. The programmers should be able to focus on coding
..and to Charlie: your win2k must be seriously f***ed up if you need to swap with Dreamweaver and Photoshop
Charlie wrote:
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IMO it’s the packagers and disitributers that should provide means of installing the software. The programmers should be able to focus on coding
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Charlie: I fully agree with you. 100%
Heard about aptm, urpmi, Stormpkg, RPMdrake etc?
They exist, and they become easier to use for every release!
I have to wonder where this theory that Windows 2000 has insane system requirements has come from; I’m running it on three systems right now:
– dual P2 350, 256MB RAM
– dual P3 666, 512MB RAM
– P2 333, 192MB RAM (laptop)
Win2k’s “typical” memory usage seems to peak out around 100MB, even after I’ve loaded my apps (usually things like Outlook Express, MS Weird, FrameMaker, WinAMP, mIRC, EMACS, cygwin’s bash port, Internet Exploiter, etc.)… sitting around with no apps running, it’s using between 64 and 74MB. This doesn’t seem insane to me; BeOS R5 wants about 64MB of RAM, and Mandrake 8.1 on these systems was painfully slow, sucking down about 128MB of RAM just to boot and come up to the desktop, etc.
For a desktop OS, Win2k is pretty good. As a development platform, Win32 sucks ass (UGLY, ugly APIs). But hey, it’s serving me much better than BeOS R5 and Mandrake 8.1 were. :-
I still lust after a box capable of running MacOS X, but that’s not exactly a good idea for a gamer either. I’m sure it would make my OpenGL programming more fun (or at least, less pain) though.
– chrish
Hey guy’s have ever tried the Linux Mandrake8.1 withrpmdrake?
It’s easier, a lot easier to install and use than win2k… In less than one hour my system was up on the internet (ADSL), my “win” printer was working Hp812c (the setup toke me 2 days with win2k and its wrong driver!), and the sound management was all automatic. Also my G450 was working in dual screen in no reboot (take 10 minutes to get it work with win2k, less than 1 in linux)
About the software, did you try Evolution all compatible with Outlook 2000 except for viruses
Also my Visor USB is fine and I did not have the corrupted usb device ID as in win2k…
Linux is EASY and READY for the desktop!!!!!!!!!
Try an up to date distro and you will see. Mandrake is very easy…
After finding XFce I’m never going back!
That’s like comparing minesweeper with Office.
Ie, does XFce:
Browse your web?
Play your music and videos?
Handle your e-mail?
Connect to your handheld/mp3 player/digital camera?
Connect you to IRC?
etc etc etc
Except for the handheld/mp3 player/digital camera and videos (things I don’t have, so I can’t say), I have no problems doing any of those things.
Web/email/IRC: mozilla (don’t use IRC much)
Music: various X players installed
Why would using a diferent environment make any of them harder to do?
What I can do is run the GUI longer with more stability (than KDE or Gnome), launch apps a little faster, load the environment faster, and generally enjoy using Linux a lot more. What am I depriving myself of?
I wasn’t saying you can’t do these things within XFce, just that you can’t do it WITH XFce.
Your comparison is like if I said:
“Why use XFce + mozilla + various x players, when I can use Kwin”
Just appreciate it, I mean it’s really nice that the KDE developers were able to realize that what needed work was not new features, but speed optimizations.
What I deplore here is that none of you seemed to have installed the new beta and gave it a try. You all talk without hands-on.
Nice work KDE developers, hope you would do steps like that more often
You don’t do those things with KDE anyway, you are still using different programs. Sure, you can use KDE apps, but you don’t need to have the entire desktop environment running to use them. So yeah, you can install only the KDE apps (and the required libraries) and use xfce to your hearts content. I do that (run xfce and code on kdevelop, use konqueror to browse through /usr/doc and the web, etc.), and I’m very content.