As part of the Lindows-to-Linspire name change promotion, a new ISO image of Linspire 4.5 has been made available for free download, DistroWatch reports.
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Go here: http://www.linspire.com/btorder
Now click the “Apply Coupon” button. Type in LINDOWS as the coupon.
You now have a free version fo Linspire 4.5.
Linspire??? you got to be kidding me. I would have expected them to do much better. This is worse then Windows. Oh well, I guess it works if it keaps them out of court.
I often see people complaining about how Lindows/Linspire rebrands products, Lindows Web Browser, Lindows Instant Messenger, etc covering up the true Linux roots of many apps, and even the operating system. Notice how it’s just Lindows, not Lindows Linux like most other distributions. How about just dropping the Lindows, and calling it Linux? Then no one could claim that Lindows.com is trying to hide their Linux roots.
Linux 9.0, now easier than ever!
What do you think?
What do you think?
I think you can’t be serious, but just to answer: Linux is a copyright of Linus Torvalds, and it’s just a kernel at that
I love how Lindows hides those incredibly awful names of KDE programs – Karamba, Klipper, Konqueror, etc. It’s the cheesiest krap I’ve ever seen, but Lindows fixed it; I wish other distros would follow suit.
I also wish they’d do one better and just name things after what they do – like Mail, Internet, Finder.
But they’re doing alright.
Thanks!
Now click the “Apply Coupon” button. Type in LINDOWS as the coupon.
You now have a free version fo Linspire 4.5.
It’s more of a hassle than that as far as I could tell. I can see why so many people might be turned off by this company.
Linux is a copyright of Linus Torvalds, and it’s just a kernel at that
Not copyrighted but trademark
The following was written by Linus Torvalds and posted to kernel-dev
I’ve been getting tons of email about the trademark thing due to the
action of stopping the auctioning off of linux-related names, so instead
of just answering individually (which was how I started out), I’ll just
send out a more generic email. And hope that slashdot etc pick it up so
that enough people will be reassured or at least understand the issues.
And hey, you may not end up agreeing with me, but with the transmeta
announcement tomorrow I won’t have much time to argue about it until next
week
Basically, the rules are fairly simple, and there really are just a few
simple basic issues involved:
– I (and obviously a lot of other people) do not want to have “Linux” as
a name associated with unacceptable (or borderline) behaviour, and it’s
important that “Linux” doesn’t get a name of being associated with
scams, cybersquatting, etc etc. I’d personally hate that, for rather
obvious reasons. I _like_ being proud of Linux, and what has been
achieved. I’d rather not have to apologize for it..
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/01/19/0828245.shtml
I ment worse then Lindows. I think Windows was a pretty good name for the OS, name it what it is.
looks like u have to give ur credit card details to get the torrent…
Not copyrighted but trademark
Thx for clearing that up, Dr”Linux” =P
Read Subject. I am still waiting to download the ISO from close to a month or so ago, during the last “special”.
This happened last time too.. you don’t have to give them your credit info at all. after your order is complete, to download go to “my products” then to “cd download” and it’ll give you the download link. Don’t continue on where it says it wants to give you a trial of whatever they’re trying to sell you.
it works fine for me. last time and this time. downloading via bit torrent right now.
I managed to stumble across a FTP and HTTP link in the my account–>my product section when i went to download it. i had a 30minute window to download apparently…. downloading now.. should be worth a giggle anyways…
I can’t download this thing because I’m in The Netherlands, I thought renaming Lindows to Linspire would also make Linspire legal over here?
Can they do away with the sh1tty click-n-run thingy…
Just downloading the Linspire 4.5 ISO as I speak, but is there an MD5SUM of it listed anywhere (it wasn’t in the “BitTorrent Download” pop-up window that appeared)? I guess I’ll have to burn it to a CD-RW and keep my fingers crossed…
Does anyone know the differences between linspire 4.5 and the lindows 4.5?
If so, what are they?
Look again. There are MD5SUMs for all Linspire/Lindows CDs in “My.Linspire.com> My Products > CD Downloads”.
Various small fixes and new Linspire grahpics (I think).
Go to the “My Products -> CD Downloads” page
http://shop.linspire.com/user/mylindows_download_library.php
which has pop-up links with the MD5 sums. For Linspire 4.5 ISO (linspire-full-4.5.393.iso) the sum is e1d5a92222e0a2faaa13bf855dda21dc.
Great move by that company in my opinion.
But, we need to login… or no???
I tried lindows the last time they gave it away free. I was not especially impressed. I don’t see anything revolutionary about it. I don’t see why anbody would pay $70 for this when there are hundreds of free distos out there. What’s the great advantage of Lindows over, say, mandrake?
With Xandros, the price may be justified, because xandros includes stuff like staroffice and crossover office. What’s special about Lindows?
Aside from having nothing special, Lindows has an inflexible install, a very slow boot time, and when I tried it: it crashed when I tried to run K3B.
If not for msft, and all that free publicity, lindows would have been gone a year ago.
JMHO.
i are in the cd download but i aint get any pop up windows
Well, I’m also living in the netherlands, first I entered my e-mail ending with .nl but then I took my linuxmail account (.org) and now I’m downloading it.
I just tried getting the ISO, but it tells me my account is inactive?? I was in my account the other day just fine. Anyone else having this probelem?
I beg you pardon but the website distrowatch.com scared me away. What the Hell where do I start reading its like this website is full of hyperlinks on the right/left/top/bottom with a little bit of text in the middle.
I am also getting Inactive Account problems…even when I go to pages that you don’t need to be logged in to see.
But we must LOGIN to download it? Explain me please.
>>> I just tried getting the ISO, but it tells me my account is inactive?? I was in my account the other day just fine. Anyone else having this probelem?
GGGRRR!!!
I am having the same prob for the last 30 minutes, either that one or the shopping cart not updating to reflect the cupon´s discount.
The one time I passed that… there where no available items in “my downloads” for my account.
I don´t have anithing against Lindows(spire) but this is very annoying. >(
Maybe there is too much load on the servers right now.
When i tryed to download, my tought was to use bittorrent. That way, not only i wouldn’t be stressing their network, but mine would also suffer less from the download and with the added advantage to help others to make the download…
But to no avail, i couldn’t find the “.torrent” file to activate bittorrent…
I just made a new account and logged in, applied the coupon and grabbed the torrent file from my downloads…. seems to work fine but the site is really slow right now…
http://tracker.linspire.com/torrents/linspire-full-4.5.393.torrent
try this, iam not sure if that works.
To download the iso, we must have an account and logon?
I downloaded the Lindows 4.5 Developers Edition when it was released. After about a month of just looking at the discs I burned, I installed it. A lot of good things and bad things about it. It’s the quickest way to get debian installed that I know of. Running as root is a big mistake. Just make a normal user and that’ll fix that. Click and Run is a joke, so I installed apt-get, which ended up generating a lot of dependecy issues for packages I wanted. That didn’t sit well at all. And for boot times, I thought Mandrake took a while to load from a cold boot, Lindows was painful (AthlonXP 2000+, 512MB DDR333), even after trimming it down. All in all it isn’t a horrible distro, but definately not for me. I won’t be trying Linspire anytime soon, but I’m not as against it as I was before I tried it for a few days. Go figure.
Yeah, that one works for me. Kinda slow on the download right now (10k), must be some real hits on the site.
-Erwos
It warns you about running as root and gives you an option not to. WTF is so hard to understand. Unlike other distributions it doesn’t FORCE you but it strongly encourages you not to run as root.
not meaning to troll, as I use Lindows/Lin(whatever) on one of my PCs, but I have found a better linux distro for people moving from Windows, and it has a far better package management system than Click and Run.
Have a look, it is here;
http://www.ibiblio.org/onebase/
I recently installed Lindows OS Developer’s Edition, and signed up for CNR … just to check out the OS, and see how things worked. I must say, I was impressed.
However … it was my own fault, but I didn’t realize that I couldn’t *cancel* my $5/month CNR membership … even though I was just testing the Developer’s version of the OS!! I thought that by using the Developer’s version, I would have the option of cancelling CNR … but Lindows said “Sure, you can cancel, but you owe us $49.”
I am _not_ pleased.
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Not only does the developer copy features found in other distros but they attempt to call their program database “Click-and-Pick”. How is that any differant that Linspire’s “Click-and-Run”? They make it seem that downloading and installing multiple apps at once with CNP is something new that they offer when it’s been available in SuSE Linux for quite some time.
If you want a user friendly Linux distro with out hidden cost then use something like SuSE Linux or Mandrake. Those two distros are very user friendly for newbies coming from Windows while at the same time offering powerful tools.
Another thing is I have no respect for a web site designer that just copies images from other sites and claims as their own. Crap at least have some originality. A lot of the stuff on that site was taken from the icons in KDE and Gnome.
According to someone from Lindows, Inc. on their support area, the CNR is not a monthly fee.
It’s a yearly fee they are letting you pay off in monthly installments.
Like a Cellphone Contract.
So when you want to cancel, you still owe the rest of the years fee.
They didn’t do that to me, since I changed over to a Lifetime User Subscription.
I agree, SUSE has had something like this, and it is a powerful system to move people to. However, my original post was for people who are windows users at the minute and are looking at one of these “desktop linux distro”, and imho onebase is best. The site does look a bit gay, but that olm package system is excellent.
I do not agree with giving new users a copy of mandrake, I personally do not like mandrake.
Where is the logic when someone is willing to pay to access a database of programs when it’s free with other distros such as SuSE Linux? Linspire claims they offer a discount on retail apps available in the CNR Warehouse but when you take into account the fee to access CNR you really are losing money, not saving. I feel sorry for people that are scammed by this marketing scheme. Makes one wonder what will happen now that Novell has plans to release YAST to the Open Source community?
“I love how Lindows hides those incredibly awful names of KDE programs – Karamba, Klipper, Konqueror, etc. It’s the cheesiest krap I’ve ever seen, but Lindows fixed it; I wish other distros would follow suit. “
Actually SUSE does that by default. It’s just an option in KDE since 3.1 IIRC. It should be an option in the KMenu editor. There are 3 options, the name of the application (Konquerer), the type of application (Web Browser) or both (Web Browser (Konquerer)).
Lindow’s goes a step too far IMO, since they rename everything Lindows. Personally I prefer SUSE to all else and am anxiously awaiting 9.1.
Does anyone know if it’s a live CD, or do you have to install it?
I tried to get the free “Linspire” but what a hassle. No where was the apparent required “code” seen to be entered. Only via this forum did I get that far. Even after entering the code it wasn’t straightfoward to start the d/l process. Do you really think after some searching, I’m going to wait hrs. for a 56k d/l. Order the CD, yeah right. Nothing about this whole process was easy, in fact I just gave-up. If they want me to contine they can sent it to me and screw the CDR or whatever they call it, I’m not paying further for relabeled pgms. that are free to begin with, subsription or not. Want my CC, geezzzz what a crock. Sorry, if it seems pived, but I am. —–Willy
Uhm, exactly what was so hard about downloading the free version? And there is no need to wait for any download, use the bittorrent iso and you’re on your way instantly.
Linspire is built around the CNR service. For $50/yr you get ALL versions of Linspire AND the CNR service to install apps with just a click (and lifetime license to the apps you install).
I don’t see how $50/yr for everything Linspire can be more costly than ie the $40 you have to shell out for just the SuSE OS which releases about twice a year.
Also the Linspire license allows you to install on all of your family’s computers AND one computer at your job.
Xandros is $90/yr (price of their OS) and doesn’t come with a service like CNR.
this is just more clever marketing, the OS isn’t usefull unless you pay for c&r. They just trick you into thinking that getting a free copy is a big deal.
Thing is if you don’t pay you can’t use your apps anymore. That’s kind of lame. In of itself paying $50 a year to install many apps that are freely available on the net seems pretty retarded to me. But I am not a potential Lindows user and I do see why that would appeal to some people who for some reason hate windows, want to run Linux, but can’t figure out how.
But like I pointed out once you stop paying say bye bye to your apps. I guess I just don’t like the idea of “renting” apps.
btw the people behind Lindows really are marketing geniuses. They came from nowhere(ie ZERO linux presence) to having huge exposure in no time flat. I once got a peak at their marketing docs somewhere on one of their webservers and man are they organized. Nicely flashy graphics and Very professoinal looking. I could only imagine what would happen if you fired the entire Mandrake crew and put these people in their place. Mandrake Linux wouldn’t be so dam buggy year after year and it would be preloaded on half the PC’s at compusa by now.
Anyway I as an OS I don’t like Lindows. If you go outside of Click-N-Run you’ll hose your system. If you don’t pay for Click-N-Run then Lindows is a waste of time. I also think that proprietary Linux’s mostly suck. But from an organizational and marketing standpoint Lindows REALLY has their sh*t together.
Linux Click-N-Run OS 4.6 home edition
Linux Click -N-Run OS 4.5 work station
I was saying exactly the same thing the other day on this site about Lindows/Linspire. The company is run by greed.
They say their target audience is Windows users, so to get them to move, they set up the system to be as easy to use as they could. Fair enough, but CNR is everywhere, and it will hose the machine if not removed properly etc etc
apt-get is there, but just try and update kde
I am writing this from the new version of Linspire that I got yesterday. I have been using Lindows since Febuary, on and off, and I have mixed feelings on it, if I gave it to a newbie, they would have enough stuff to keep them using the pc for almost all the things they do in Windows. However, CNR is plastered all over the place, almost begging for the users credit card details on ever click. This is just plain not nice.
So like I said, mixed feelings, a good (little slow perhaps) version of linux for beginners, not much to offer o those people who had enjoyed the freedom of other versions of linux.
let the flames commence…………….
As I’ve stated before, I didn’t even get the free d/l. Just to understand, no apparent link was provided to goto any such service. It maybe there it wasn’t clear and not a “smooth running process”, I was faced with CNR right off the bat, no way to decline and just to proceed onward. It maybe no brainer for some people but if the a beginner or new user is to get a feel for this stuff, it at least should easy as pie to get it. From reading the other posts, it seems you’re locked in to CNR if you want your apps to run correctly on the systems any other outside apps may hose the system and that’s certainly not what I want. I like the premise of Linspire but gee whiz, they want to keep the ball all the time. I guess I’ll try another disto of Linux to play with, headaches and all. —–Willy
This happened last time too.. you don’t have to give them your credit info at all. after your order is complete, to download go to “my products” then to “cd download” and it’ll give you the download link.
Thanks for the info. I for one would never have gotten to actually download it without the help here. It only kept asking my credit card number… talk about user hostile!
I’m trying to get the “Free” version of Linspire 4.5. The problem is you can only download it using BitTorrent. Download speed absolutely sucks. So far its been downloading for 30hrs and is only halfway done. I’m on broadband but can only avg about 1K using BitTorrent. Not impressed with BitTorrent or Linspire over this experience. If its not done by morning I’ll cancel and stay away from Linspire and BitTorrent in the future.
Hi…
After viewing the above comments, some have indicated that other Linux OS distros have similar Linspire-CNR like functions. Can someone provide a URL for the other distros so we can take a look at how their programs operate… We’re thinking of using the CNR as part of our distribution strategy…
thanks…
tom