Hewlett-Packard has begun selling new Intel-based workstations with Linux, the company said. The x1100, an Intel-based machine first introduced with Windows in January, is available with Red Hat Linux version 7.1, HP said Thursday. HP had Linux versions of the two systems’ predecessors, the x1000 and x2000, which have a slower memory subsystem than the new models.
A quote from a Linux pundet recently ..
“That is the only deterent for linux, redhat doesn’t get shipped with dell, hp, gateway, etc. so redhat doesn’t get the money to further their distro…”
So I guess if the Lin-NUTS zealots are right, Linux is really going to take off now that consumers are not ‘forced’ to buy Windows anymore.
We’ll see – the proof is in the pudding
errrr… read carefully the article. Those PC are *not* for the public, but for business workstations. Which is not a big deal considering business is a more important market for OEM (linux wise) than the average Joe.
The problem of Microsoft abusive contract is still existing in the whole public market.
So yes, consumers still ARE ‘forced’ to buy Windows.
“errrr… read carefully the article. Those PC are *not* for the public, but for business workstations. Which is not a big deal considering business is a more important market for OEM (linux wise) than the average Joe.”
If that is true, then at least we should see a surge of popularity of Linux on business workstations, since obviously the only reason why people use Windows is because Microsoft won’t let them run Linux, correct?
“So yes, consumers still ARE ‘forced’ to buy Windows. ”
The last PC I bought (two months ago) had no operating system on it. So if I was forced to buy Windows, I wonder how the hell that happened ?
Oups … my bad. I mistaken the “workstation” word as an insurance of “no-public” release. It’s wrong, so the article IS confusing.
But still I think this PC will not be available at your CompUSA (maybe I’m wrong, we’ll see…)
“The last PC I bought (two months ago) had no operating system on it. So if I was forced to buy Windows, I wonder how the hell that happened ? ”
Very curious… From which OEM? Dell? HP? Want to know which one have the guts to release a non-Windows on the market ๐
Didn’t DELL once start to sell Linux with their PCs and now they stopped due to non-popularity?
I am just aksing….
i know someone did. can’t remember who tho.
…do Linux users actually buy their machine from one of the “big names”? If so, why?
I think this will reach new levels of unpopularity.
maybe it was gateway
I am more then 98% sure it was DELL. The other 1% is for not being sure
So yes, consumers still ARE ‘forced’ to buy Windows.
1. They can buy Macs. Nobody is forced to buy Windows any more than they are forced to buy an Intel box.
2. Buy parts and build your own. Not rocket science. Many local shops will help.
I am more then 98% sure it was DELL. The other 1% is for not being sure
Yep, it was Dell.
I know that several of the IBM thinkpads can come with linux preinstalled on them. They aren’t desktops, but they are from a major OEM.
Dell still sells them, so does Compaq, but only on server class machines. Realistically though a big reason why OEMs don’t make ‘Home PCs’ with linux on them is because anyone who would want a computer in that class and really wants to run linux on it will either suck it up and buy a PC with Windows and wipe it or they would build there own.
It seems to me like there is still a ways to go before linux is really ready for the desktop, and even then it’s going to be a while longer before major OEMs are selling systems with linux pre-installed at RadioShack/CompUSA/…
hehe … some misunderstood here …
“1. They can buy Macs. Nobody is forced to buy Windows any more than they are forced to buy an Intel box. ”
I know, that’s a given. I was talking about Intel boxes. Sorry for my lack of precision ๐
“2. Buy parts and build your own. Not rocket science. Many local shops will help. ”
That’s what I do. But not my brother, my aunt, my uncle, my mother, etc. The average Joe will always prefere to buy a “package deal”. They sometime have hard time to check their mails, don’t ask’em to plug a harddrive on a IDE with the proper settings ๐
“It seems to me like there is still a ways to go before linux is really ready for the desktop”
Agree for Linux. But I think BeOS *could* have been relatively successful. If I take my mother as an example, she check her mails, little of browsing, and print some letters she write (with writepad ?!?!).
For this kind of user, I’m pretty sure BeOS is a better and easier choice than Windows, IMHO.
“1. They can buy Macs. Nobody is forced to buy Windows any more than they are forced to buy an Intel box. ”
I know, that’s a given. I was talking about Intel boxes. Sorry for my lack of precision ๐
Guess I should have figured that out…
“2. Buy parts and build your own. Not rocket science. Many local shops will help. ”
That’s what I do. But not my brother, my aunt, my uncle, my mother, etc. The average Joe will always prefere to buy a “package deal”. They sometime have hard time to check their mails, don’t ask’em to plug a harddrive on a IDE with the proper settings ๐
That’s what geeky relatives are for!
Also, we have a shop here in Greenville SC that has a public workbench, and they provide all tools and a tech who will look over your shoulder to make sure you do it right. No charge!