Home > Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris > Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 Available Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 Available Submitted by Chris Haney 2004-08-05 Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris 28 Comments Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 has been synchronizing to mirrors and includes many new packages. There is also a Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 screenshot slideshow. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 28 Comments 2004-08-05 9:08 am Due to some obvious but minor bugs in 10.0, it seems THAT was the beta and this one’s probably the real release. 2004-08-05 9:19 am i am looking forward to the next mandrake. i love the fact that it just works. my scanner – just works. my laptop touchpad and USB both – just work – at the same time. the h-shift and v-shift display on my monitor – just works. the sound on my laptop (dell 8600, nv, pentium-m) – just works. i don’t use the wizards, not do i use the gnome or kde desktop – i don’t use the auto-mount or any other fancy magic. but i appreciate the mandrake magic beneath the desktops. and this is where mandrake’s strength lies in my opinion. 2004-08-05 9:36 am It’s true. Both FC2 and SuSE 9.1, although highly praised in some articles, simply lacks so giant HW support MDK has. Mandrake seems to become “windows” of the new century. 2004-08-05 9:39 am Why not wait 2 weeks to include the new KDE 3.3,it will be released the end ou august! 2004-08-05 9:47 am And why not wait a few more weeks and they can also include the latest and untested Gnome 2.8? Or should they wait for OO to go 2.0? Mandrake needs to ship on a pre-established schedule so that they can get packages out the door. Mandrake always ships whatever is the established technology at the time of shipping. 2004-08-05 10:00 am is a newer version of gnome, because i can’t be bothered with rolling it myself. what version is on 10.1? 2004-08-05 10:08 am Gnome 2.6 with all the patches… 2004-08-05 10:17 am Why do they not defaulted installed Gimp2, upgrading it is such a pain in the a.. Is ISDN configuration in drakconf available? Does kmail still hang when notes is click in the contact sidebar (notes is not installed default)? I run Mandrake 10 community and like it very much but there are some little annoyances…. 2004-08-05 10:40 am The screenshots exactly looks like mandrake 10.0. I guess it’s because this one is only a minor release (10.1). I think, 10.2 will be more interesting, because of kde3.3, gnome 2.8, evolution 2, openoffice2, Firefox 1.0 . Yeah… there will be big ditro wars then… 2004-08-05 10:48 am Is Gimp2 in this release? I also like MDK 10 a lot, the only thing that I miss is Gimp 2.0. I have tried several times to get it, to no avail. (I can’t use urpmi as I have no internet connection so I have to burn rpm packages from another computer to cd, and this is where dependecny hell starts…) 2004-08-05 10:52 am Not to sound like troll, but being a big fan of mandrake over the last few years, I finally had to switch to Mepis and I am not going back. Things I did not like in Mandrake like poor Gnome support, sound problems even with SB Live, crappy non antialiased fonts, vanilla OO.o, old Gimp are all perfect in Mepis. I just miss control center but I realised that this way I’ve learned more that I did within 3 years of using Mandrake. Also Gnome system tools help me much. Installing softare is a peace of cake and the system runs and starts much faster. Even NVidia drivers come preconfigured and you don’t have to mess with XFree config files. I made my choise and I’m happy. 2004-08-05 11:05 am Does my wireless network card work? That’s all I’m worried about at the moment. 2004-08-05 11:55 am You do know that Mandrake 10 Community edition is for testing right ? Also URPMI is your friend. Use it and move on. 2004-08-05 12:03 pm the wsb54g is a accesspoint but if you mean the Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Adapter or the Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Adapter, they work perfectly fine. http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan http://www.linux-sec.net/Wireless/Drivers/ 2004-08-05 1:18 pm Thanks Bas you are right I meant the WMP54G. Anyway I tried last weekend to make it happen on Mandrake 10.0 community and I couldn’t. Keep in mind that the main reason I need network connectivity is so that I can get to the Linux Documentation Project pages! I’m a total newbie. Basically I want to expend the energy to learn linux in general, not how to install a wireless card on linux. So I will wait until it is done for me, and then jump back in. Until then… WinXP manages my wireless card just fine. If I don’t hear about a solution in the next few months I may bum my wife’s laptop and sit with it and read the linux docs online, while at my desktop I am logged into Mandrake with no network. That’s my backup solution. 2004-08-05 1:31 pm You could use ndiswrapper to use the Windows drivers for your wireless card. more info can be found here. My LinkSys card (wfm11) does use the orinoco modules and is based on a realtek 8020 chipset so its real easy to get it working. It could be that yours is harder to get working but than you catch to flies in the same time, you get to know Linux and you get your wireless card to work More on wireless and tux: http://hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html 2004-08-05 2:23 pm For Gimp2, use autopacage : http://www.autopackage.org/downloads.html On a Mdk 10.0 CE, it works perfectly 2004-08-05 2:38 pm Question, why are a lot of you guys still using the CE edition? I’m not saying its a bad thing, but why not upgrade to the Offical release for bug fixes, security updates. Its as easy as a urpmi away. Just wondering really, as the CE is known to have some annoying bugs why would you choose to suffer with those? (Unless of course you have dialup *ick*, then its somewhat understandable.) Example, to update the system in two commands: [root] urpmi.addmedia main ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrakelinux/official… with ../base/hdlist.cz [root]urpmi –auto –auto-select –media main *note, this will take awhile, but at least you dont have download a whole new set of iso’s burn them, and then update the system* 2004-08-05 2:51 pm I never could get alpha installed. There seemed to be two missing RPMs and the install program would go into an endless loop. Is Beta put together better? 2004-08-05 2:52 pm Thanks traxtech, I’ll give this a try, it’s also a nice test for autopackage on Mandrake 10 Official. 2004-08-05 3:23 pm Wooh…would have been so much nicer if i knew this one before. I managed to install by hand..but ouch the pain Thanx!! 2004-08-05 3:23 pm That is not true. Yes libkdecore and xxx did have bad sig or whaterver, you could still click “Ignore” and continue the installation. Then, grab those 2 files from ftp mirror and install them afterward. 2004-08-05 3:42 pm I would love to try the newest MDK but man linux keeps making me feel bad everytime I install MDK and my modem “3com OEM” never does work! Not even installing the driver for it makes it work … I can’t use the net then no need to use linux. Only linux I found that works with my modem is when I complie Gentoo and man then my LCD dun work right nad it takes almost 3 days to complie it … Not bashing linux … I would love to use it but with every release I keep hoping for my modem to work in MDK … I guess I’ll download and give this newer one a try when it’s ready but something tells me it’s a waste of time. –Idoxash 2004-08-05 3:48 pm Mandrake 10.1 will ship Gimp 2 as far as I know, as for KDE 3.3, well, Mandrake is a KDE distro if they don’t wait for it then for what would they wait? I’m sure Mandrake will include these 2 and I’m also sure it won’t include Gnome 2.8, it is confirmed so don’t ask. But I’m not so sure the network configuration wizard will work, it never worked the way it should and in 10.0 got worst (at least to me) so I guess I’m better off using my modem trough my network card instead of USB… 2004-08-05 5:24 pm KDE 3.3 will not be in, that’s way too major an update to stick in beyond feature freeze (people complain that Mandrake is instable, *AND* they want major DEs to be shoehorned in three days before release…sigh). Mandrake GNOME support is not “poor”, it’s easily the match for any other distro. GIMP 2.0 (or 1.3 as was) has been packaged very well for Mandrake since the days of version 9.2, in contrib – no need for hand compilation or autopackage. For 10.1 it’s been moved to main, so it will be the version of GIMP installed by default. This isn’t as small a release as some are saying – sure, there’s not so many changes to big components as with 10.0, but there’s a lot of other stuff going on. Mandrake now has an alert applet in the system tray which is integrated into a lot of system functions via dbus and other methods – it will alert on new hardware, network connection changes and so forth. Support for bluetooth has been massively improved, and there’s some interesting wifi stuff in there. If you ignore kernel, KDE and GNOME and dig in to the Mandrake-built stuff you’ll find a lot of good changes have been going on in the last few months. heck, software suspend might even be working this time around…and the RAF Porcine Squadron will be out in force to celebrate the event…;) 2004-08-05 6:09 pm If you want to improve it, why not report bug/complain to Mandrake folks? Also, Mandrakelinux has commercial versions that might include the driver for your modem. So, either report to make it better, spend some $ to buy commercial or do-it-yourself with Gentoo. 2004-08-06 7:56 pm i love the fact that it just works… Well, that´s not my case, In fact I could say it just don’t work. I got a HP Pavilion ze5300 P4 laptop. Most distributions had problems some time ago with the detection of Firewire at installation that cause a freeze. In that time, Fedora, Redhat (9), Gentoo, Knoppix, Suse allow me to bypass the problem, or do not have it at all, but not Mandrake. Right now the only distro that have not fixed that problem is Mandrake. Also, a KDE centric environment with subpar KDE development is a shame. Even Redhat/Fedora do it better. 2004-08-06 8:21 pm That’s what I mean about KDE Development http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 I was the one that reported the bug on 2003.03.12 03:13, and still is unresolved. No way to view the KDE documentation (library usage, examples, etc) within Kdevelop. No flaming, but even Redhat with is “KDE Bashing and Gnome preference” has excelent KDE development environment.