Home > KDE > KDE 3.3.1 Released KDE 3.3.1 Released Submitted by Brett 2004-10-12 KDE 30 Comments KDE 3.3.1 is a maintenance release which provides corrections of problems reported using the KDE bug tracking system and greatly enhanced support for existing translations and new translations. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 30 Comments 2004-10-12 9:44 pm Anonymous I just installed KDE RIGHT before I got this announcement!! Eh, I installed 3.2.2, so it’s not like I thought I was getting the latest version anyway. 2004-10-12 9:53 pm Anonymous Pfft, I’m on Gentoo. I only just finished compiling 3.3! (Mods: I use and love Gentoo, go mither someone else.) 2004-10-12 11:23 pm Anonymous BUT! Koffice needs more developers. At this point, KDE itself is in great shape and looking at a bright future with 4.0 improvements. Koffice, on the other hand, is very fast, integrated with KDE, works with KParts and really needs some rapid improvement, despite being highly useful as is. 2004-10-13 12:08 am Anonymous The “Kicker” app launch panel looks so NOT-cool — like MS Windows app launch panel (with lots of un-needed garbage added). But it’s relatively easy to make KDE to look good. This MacOSX-like KSmoothPanel http://linuxforums.org/forum/images/content/MDK10.1_desktop.png looks definitely cool. I wish this was the default look in KDE. If KDE wants to be the number UNO desktop for Unix-like systems, they need to tune down the options available in the DEFAULT desktop setup (but I enjoy the variety of options in KControl Center). Sometimes less really is more. 2004-10-13 12:21 am Anonymous yay 2004-10-13 12:22 am Anonymous Does that clock configurator still have 5 tabs? 2004-10-13 12:23 am Anonymous People in general like to make comments about software development when they have invested no personal effort towards learning how to program, usability design, technical writing or otherwise. It is somewhat like watching janitors tell cardiologists how to do there job. Really though, KDE is an excellent desktop environment and could use people to help triage bugs, verify bugs, write documentation, and build packages — if you are not the programming type. It is positive to see the bug fix releases coming out now – as that tends to be a big issue for distrobutions who want software that has already been properly QA’d by the community of developers. I would encourage everyone interested in this project to go to http://www.kde.org if you haven’t before now. For everyone who enjoys KDE, consider helping out the project if not by working on a specific area, then donate $5 – $10 – $20 dollars or something to KDE (http://www.kde.org/support/support.php) as bandwith, conferences, and sponsored projects aren’t free and need help. 2004-10-13 12:23 am Anonymous the next release will be 3.4 or 4.0? 2004-10-13 12:27 am Anonymous > Does that clock configurator still have 5 tabs? The last time it did was back in KDE 3.1, which was released in early 2003. When was the last time you used KDE? 2004-10-13 12:27 am Anonymous “It is somewhat like watching janitors tell cardiologists how to do there job.” It’s more like customers telling the company what they want from the product. 2004-10-13 12:27 am Anonymous 3.4 http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-features.html 2004-10-13 12:30 am Anonymous The last time it did was back in KDE 3.1, which was released in early 2003. When was the last time you used KDE? Honestly, since 3.0 2004-10-13 12:32 am Anonymous Konqueror works with gmail Are you sure? It seemed to me that it wasn’t fixed in time for the 3.3.1 release… However, 3.3.2 is coming in about a month 2004-10-13 1:35 am Anonymous Does anyone know if http://www.globeandmail.com works yet? It’s the only newpaper I read. If anyone is running this can you please check if you can load any of the stories off of the main page without crashing? I’m sure many Canadians are waiting for this. 2004-10-13 3:58 am Anonymous I miss the speed and simplicity of the old KDE 1 and 2.x series. Since 3.x has come out I find it hard to enjoy such a bloated, slovenly and slow morass of apps and configurators. KDE has many strengths, but Konquerer sucks (let flamewar begin) when compared to Firefox, and KOffice bites (compared to Open Office) and really, I’m not a big fan of Open office either, cuz I’ve learned so much on MS crap, I don’t want to relearn how to do simple things. I just want to make a friggin letter, and I don’t want it to be part of my damned startup panel!!!!! 2004-10-13 4:16 am Anonymous I miss the speed and simplicity of the old KDE 1 and 2.x series. Since 3.x has come out I find it hard to enjoy such a bloated, slovenly and slow morass of apps and configurators. For anybody that is running hardware that is even reasonably modern the KDE 3.x series is substantially faster and tons more stable than the 2.x series. Konq on 2.x was almost unbearably crashy. Here’s some advice. Save your lunch money for a week and upgrade that 128 meg stick into something for the 21st century. 2004-10-13 6:26 am Anonymous It’s funny how everything always turns to Qt vs GTK or Gnome vs KDE or Firefox vs Konqueror. I use Firefox because that’s what I was used before i Switched to Linux, but frankly, writing that Konqueror sucks compared to it is utter nonsense. If you use KDE, Konqueror is faster to load and provides better integration to the desktop than firefox. Firefox is supposed to have better page rendering than Konqueror. This might be true, but with identical fonts settings, and on every site I browse, rendering is quite the same with both programs… The rest is a matter of taste (I prefer the firefox default shortcuts ; besides I can share my firefox profile between Linux and Windows when dual-booting). Obviously, if you don’t use KDE you don’t need Konqueror, but please, it’s really meaningless to write things like “Konqueror sucks compared to Firefox”. Concerning Koffice, it’s true that it lacks many features, especially compared with open office. And the MS Office filters are really bad, which is a handicap. But again, for simple documents or spredsheets, Koffice is so much faster than OOo, and more beautiful as well, that it remains a very possible choice. 2004-10-13 8:17 am Anonymous The upcoming KOffice 1.3.4 is not part of this release of KDE, of course but since the topic was raised, I’d like to note that KOffice development seems to have picked up quite a bit recently. There is work done on new features for KSpread and KPresenter. Kexi development is almost too rapid to follow. Some new people have expressed interest in hacking on KWord, although one has to wait and see whether that comes to anything, of course. Krita has gained new tools and features since the recent preview release, and I’m fairly sure that Krita will be part of the 1.4 release early next year. Oh, and more work is being done to make KOffice aplications fit together better. All in all, good progress. 2004-10-13 8:31 am Anonymous “but Konquerer sucks (let flamewar begin) when compared to Firefox” I’m not sure what “sucks” refers to specifically. Firefox does render some sites that Konqueror stumbles on – I think partly because the KDE team refuses to deviate from strict W3C standards to accommodate MS’s relaxed interpretation hereof. Personally I have no big issues with Konqueror. I use all the time. Bloat? Maybe – maybe not. A good way to deal with it is not to deal with it. 2004-10-13 10:54 am Anonymous yeah I bitched and moaned for years about KDE’s obscene number of toolbar options, menu options, etc — it’s just “less is more”, but also “more is less”! I finally gave up after KDE 3.2 came out — again with that hideous Keramik as its default theme (is this a joke?). So I finally made the switch to Gnome 2.6. It’s not perfect and there are features I sorely miss from KDE. But at least it doesn’t get in my way and lets me get my work done. 2004-10-13 10:58 am Anonymous It’s funny how everything always turns to Qt vs GTK or Gnome vs KDE or Firefox vs Konqueror. And where do you see a gnome vs kde or qt vs gtk? On the other hand who said firefox is the DEFAULT browser for gnome if you catch my drift. I don’t use KDE if you ask me , but fluxbox ATM , however my machine at home is Slack+Gnome. Seems to me that you are the one willing to start a war.Is not funny anymore 2004-10-13 12:14 pm Anonymous “And where do you see a gnome vs kde or qt vs gtk? ” Nowhere in this thread I agree, but my original statement included “Konqueror vs Firefox”, which is quite on topic I think ; so your question is somewhat pointless. But actually I admit that “Konqueror vs Firefox” is not as common as the 2 previous ones. It’s just that the “Mozilla got Kde-ified” recent story ended up in a violent Konq/FFox fight, so this example was on my mind. “Seems to me that you are the one willing to start a war.” Oh please. I just wrote “you shouldn’t say that A “sucks” compared to B”. If that’s starting a war for you… 2004-10-13 12:43 pm Anonymous @Rinaldo These flamewars always start in kde stories by gnome users pissed off that their holy grail of desktops has been reduced to a pathetic simplistic useless shell of what it once promised to become. Watching kde evolve and progress at a rate that gnome users can only dream of drives them to jump on their computers and flame kde for daring to include features that wont make it into gnome for years, if ever. Its a sad frustrating existence and you must feel for them. Way to go ,dude!Keep the flag up. @tristure If that’s starting a war for you… You are right,I over reacted.Sorry for that 2004-10-13 2:03 pm Anonymous “I finally gave up after KDE 3.2 came out — again with that hideous Keramik as its default theme (is this a joke?). So I finally made the switch to Gnome 2.6. It’s not perfect and there are features I sorely miss from KDE. But at least it doesn’t get in my way and lets me get my work done.” And you are too dumb to change defaults. Good riddance. 2004-10-13 3:12 pm Anonymous “I finally gave up after KDE 3.2 came out — again with that hideous Keramik as its default theme (is this a joke?). KDE 3.4’s default theme has been made plastik. The only real objection for changing it in KDE 3.3 was the fact that the documentation team didn’t want to regenerate (until kde 4) over 300 screenshots in 50 languages (6000 screenshots), like they had to do in KDE 3.1 after it was changed to keramik. However, an automatic tool was made to do this, and so they dropped their objections. 2004-10-13 5:05 pm Anonymous > Does that clock configurator still have 5 tabs? What are you smoking? The clock config doesn’t/didn’t have tabs. Regional Settings panel has 5 tabs, with “time” one of them. > but Konquerer sucks (let flamewar begin) when compared to Firefox Yeah, compare that FireFox to Konqueror on PentII300Mhz and then you’ll have a new perspective. Talking about bloating… >>So I finally made the switch to Gnome 2.6. It’s not >>perfect and there are features I sorely miss from KDE. >>But at least it doesn’t get in my way and lets me get >>my work done.” > And you are too dumb to change defaults. Good riddance. Lol, you nailed it! I was surprised for a while why some ppl yell so much about Gnome “Usability”.. Soon, “in the interest of the user,” they’ll switch to supporting one-button-only mice. Lol. 2004-10-13 6:35 pm Anonymous I run Firefox on a P2-400. WFM… 2004-10-13 9:56 pm Anonymous Joe> And you are too dumb to change defaults. Good riddance. Indeed. I for one wouldn’t want to be without all the features that KDE provides. I can only encourage them to keep at it, only thing being that: 1 – They have to be properly organized and categorized 2 – Proper documentation to go with if they’re nontrivial I don’t want to be told by others what’s good or bad, or necessary or superfluous, let me decide for myself. And I want a proper GUI to manage it all, not a damn registry editor. 2004-10-13 11:06 pm Anonymous I’ve got the new KDE compiled an installed now (a GPGME bug in Gentoo prevented this yesterday) and… WOW! On my machine, all the windows, font rendering, etc. are much, much faster. Konqueror is not only faster, but it also works much better on screens with long forms. So far it’s rendered all the pages that I had to move to Mozilla for every few days. Now Konqueror appears to be able to take over ALL my browsing duties. Everything’s sped up. Seriously, too, not small increments. Best of all, KPDF works 10 times better! 2004-10-14 12:13 am Anonymous I fail to see how any human being who claims to practice rational human thought can be capable of uttering the gross contradiction of “less is more”. Yet I see this statement all the time. If you are attempting to argue that it is BETTER to have fewer capabilities than to have more capabilities, you are still guilty of abandoning reason. The number of capabilities that a software program provides a user is not some magic number that you can pull out of the ether. A software program is designed and created by a man to provide exactly the capabilities it has. It’s purpose is to do exactly what it was created to do. It has no moral context. It amazes me that people can speak such trash. Its no difference than saying 1+1 = red, or life and death are in fact the same thing. Contradictions don’t exist. They are an illusion of mans failure to accept reality. If ever you think you found a contradiction, check your premesis, and you will find that one of them is wrong.