Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Aug 2016 20:08 UTC
Internet & Networking

Fast forward to July 15, 2016 (there’s that lab journal again…) when, after receiving an email from Google asking me to indicate how exactly I would like them to use my data to customise adverts around the web, and after thinking for a bit about what kind of machine learning tricks I would be able to pull on you with 12 years of your email, I decided that I really had to make alternative plans for my little email empire.

Somehow FastMail came up and in one of those impulsive LET'S WASTE SOME TIME manoeuvres, I pressed the big red MIGRATE button!

The rest of this post is my mini-review of the FastMail service after almost 3 weeks of intensive use.

I'm pretty sure at least some of you are contemplating a similar migration, away from companies like Google, Microsoft, and Apple, to something else.

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To host or not to host ...
by -pekr- on Tue 9th Aug 2016 19:04 UTC
-pekr-
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2006-03-28

I am debating myself if I should continue to host my own solution for ages. We are a small local wi-fi ISP (cca 800 clients) and of course we had to provide our own smtp server.

Man, what a journey it was. Endless times on the black list, because of the wrong settings, clients nervous, myself having headaches. So here we go ...

I always wanted to have some kind of ISP panel, so that more ppl from the company of my brother (after all, it is not a paid job for me) could admin new users, change settings.

Hence I tried ClarkConnect, which later on became ClearOS. Divorced with them, as those guys are crazy enough to claim, that if I want multi-domain setup, I should run multiple virtual servers. No, thank you. The other one, was/is a Zentyal. I really easily set-up, what I've needed. Well, those guys (or their investors) have changed the business plan - they started to remove module by module - FTP, Webserver, making it absolutly unacceptable for old-timers. It was like snap in the face. Instead they do provide MS like server, based upon Openchange, or something like that.

Well, we still run (on the older) Zentyal, using Thunderbirds or Roundcube webmail. No blacklist for few years (as we run on separate IP, implemented sfp records, etc.). I am still NOT a Linux/email expert. Proper email rules are a very sophisticated discipline, which should be treated with a respect.

Because of low volume we need, I am thinking to move my small server to Synology - it can host websites, including php, postfix, Roundcube is there, you've got it on a raid setup and have some home media server too.

But - when I am consulting some even small business clients, I warn them - you either have a proper IT guy/company knowing the email related stuff, or you can get burned! Clients want more nowadays - they want their calendar, share office files and want it being mostly failure free and reliable. I don't hesitate to suggest big guys - Google, Office 365. And the privacy factor? Come on ;-)

Sorry for the long post ...

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RE: To host or not to host ...
by Alfman on Tue 9th Aug 2016 20:05 in reply to "To host or not to host ..."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

-pekr-,


Because of low volume we need, I am thinking to move my small server to Synology - it can host websites, including php, postfix, Roundcube is there, you've got it on a raid setup and have some home media server too.


It's impressive what those cute boxes can do, I've use them for everything from serving files and VPN to VOIP, but all too often your options become very limited once the manufacturer stops supporting them. As much as I enjoyed hacking on the embedded NAS devices (in my case Buffalo Linkstations), nothing I did was scalable because the next model would be different. Sourcing and supporting old models is tedious and I just didn't have the time to fuss with it any more. Now I try to stick with PC hardware that I know can be supported out of the box with a stock distro and no fuss. It's not as cool, but I know I can be up and running again on nearly any generic PC.


But - when I am consulting some even small business clients, I warn them - you either have a proper IT guy/company knowing the email related stuff, or you can get burned! Clients want more nowadays - they want their calendar, share office files and want it being mostly failure free and reliable. I don't hesitate to suggest big guys - Google, Office 365. And the privacy factor? Come on ;-)


Hey I'm always looking for paying clients, I can do hosting and I can custom build you whatever you want ;) /plug

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-pekr- Member since:
2006-03-28

Thanks for the reply. You know - Synology is here for long. Not sure how stable their modules are, but ... Zentyal have changed in 2 years completly, ruining everything many ppl planned.

I simply don't belive in anything long term. Maybe to go with some Ubuntu LTS and hand tuning everything.

But then I am missing some GUI toolkit above it. I looked into the ISP panel for eg., but it seems kind of complicated - doing something in GUI, I always looked into configs, what did the GUI do underneath.

Maybe I should write those few of dialogs for my colleagues in some simple GUI creation language like Red for e.g :-)

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RE: To host or not to host ...
by dionicio on Wed 10th Aug 2016 21:32 in reply to "To host or not to host ..."
dionicio Member since:
2006-07-12

Many, may years ago Suse Linux had an e-mail specialized distro. Full stack. They used to take care of a lot of the nuances, like Spam lists.

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