Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Oct 2016 14:15 UTC

Since I'm sure some of you are already angrily typing comments about my claim that the new MacBook Pros aren't designed for professionals at all - on purpose! - but for affluent regular consumers, here's Mac developer Michael Tsai's summary of the community's responses to the new MacBook Pros.

I was really disappointed with today's Apple event. It seems like Apple has either lost its way, that it has lost touch with what (some of) its customers want, or that it simply doesn't care about those customers. Developers are a captive audience, and creative professionals can switch to Windows, I guess. Apple no longer considers them core.

There's nothing particularly wrong with what Apple announced. I like Thunderbolt 3. The display looks good. I'm not crazy about Touch Bar, but it does seem potentially useful. The problem is that the MacBook Pro is not a true Pro notebook.

I really think this line is the core reason why the Mac is being neglected:

It has seemed clear for a while that the CEO doesn't really understand the Mac, or simply doesn't like it that much, and that's a problem for those of us who do.

Ding, ding, ding.

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RE[7]: Comment by pmac
by henrikmk on Tue 1st Nov 2016 11:16 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by pmac"
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True - but I, for one, can't remember them all, and some of them require finger contortion that I'm not too good at. Some people are physically unable to put their hands in those positions, too. And I'm sure there are many users who don't know a single keyboard shortcut. It's surprising how many people don't even know how to copy and paste text using keyboard shortcuts.

If this was a problem, people would be asking for a solution.

I for one can't see the usefulness in having to bend my head and look at my keyboard for whatever the touchbar may be displaying right now, because you certainly can't memorize neither the content, nor the location of software buttons anyway.

Especially, if my Macbook Pro is attached to an external screen.

That is a deep usability flaw, so why not just have those controls in, say, the window toolbar, where they're relevant or as floating tool-bars on full-screen applications, so you don't have to move the eyes away from the screen?

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RE[8]: Comment by pmac
by avgalen on Tue 1st Nov 2016 12:46 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by pmac"
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...and that is exactly why Microsoft invented the Office Ribbon about 10 years ago. To surface relevant options directly in plain sight instead of hidden in infinite submenu's or behind unknown keystrokes.
Just like the touchbar it requires programmers to surface these relevant icons onto the screen, but unlike the touchbar it doesn't require any hardware and shows up where you expect it...right there on the screen.
The only advantage the touchbar has is touch, but without any haptic feedback that seems like a really small advantage for a very limited audience at a very high cost.
Having Touch-ID on the other hand is great and, just like every decent phone has that now, every computer should have it as soon as possible (and/or any other instant authentication like Hello)

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RE[9]: Comment by pmac
by darknexus on Tue 1st Nov 2016 13:01 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by pmac"
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Too bad the Ribbon is a bastard from the keyboard. Shortcuts that make no sense when direct keyboard shortcuts aren't availale, different shortcuts for a submenu (or whatever it's called) vs the main option... screw that thing. For that matter, screw context-sensitivity in a menu system. It wouldn't have even been considered if Microsoft hadn't buried options in odd places to begin with. How many programs other than Microsoft's have adopted the ribbon, after all? And how many users have even asked to have it?

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