Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Dec 2017 23:54 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives

I've now turned my attention to preparation for beta1. Already talk has resumed on the mailing list of a tentative schedule; there still remains too much to do to expect it before the new year, but with the list of blockers now reduced effectively to two (one relating to installing source packages on the actual release image, which I intend to look into solving soon; the other is about clashing mime supertype declaration and may prove trickier to solve), the actual "release branch" is hopefully not more than a month away.

I've already begun drafting release notes and making build system cleanups as part of preparation. There is finally light at the end of the tunnel - don't give up hope yet. :)

I'm just putting it out there that if all goes according to plan, I'll be spending lots of time in a nice Haiku virtual machine over the coming weeks to get a really good look at the state of the continuation of the best operating system ever made.

It's time.

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RE[2]: Comment by neticspace
by The123king on Thu 14th Dec 2017 09:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by neticspace"
The123king
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2009-05-28

I find it hilarious that mankind has a very successful and complete BeOS clone, yet bigger successes like Classic Mac OS, OS/2 etc have no real successful clones at all...

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RE[3]: Comment by neticspace
by wigry on Thu 14th Dec 2017 11:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by neticspace"
wigry Member since:
2008-10-09

I suspect there are "slight" issues with copyright on these systems. Apple would not allow Mac OS clone to be made and OS/2 is also still proprietary solution guarded with valid copyright.

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RE[4]: Comment by neticspace
by The123king on Thu 14th Dec 2017 12:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by neticspace"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

There's copyright issues with cloning Windows and UNIX, but Wine/ReactOS and Linux/BSD have managed it fine. I fail to see how copyright stops people from cloning a closed source OS, especially since there was legal court case a few years ago establishing that compatible reimplementations of closed source API's is legal. (i've looked, can't find it, but i know it exists), so there is nothing stopping someone from making a compatible OS which runs software for whatever system you wish to target

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BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

I think that BeOS captured the enthusiasm of many, much more so than OS/2 for which there are (were?) two replication projects: OSFree and Voyager. BeOS also introduced a number of concepts, many of which have yet to be copied/implemented by current commercial operating systems. It is also relatively legacy-free yet provides POSIX support.

The absence of a Classic Mac OS replication project is somewhat puzzling.

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RE[3]: Comment by neticspace
by tidux on Thu 14th Dec 2017 17:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by neticspace"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Classic MacOS was crap. There's no point in running it on modern commodity hardware, or even any PPC Mac new enough to run OS X 10.4. Arca Noae (formerly eCom) is planning on replacing OS/2 with binary-compatible Free Software one piece at a time as a way to work around the licensing thicket.

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RE[4]: Comment by neticspace
by weckart on Fri 15th Dec 2017 16:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by neticspace"
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2006-01-11

It's far from my favourite but there are tons of reasons to run it still; particularly DAW software and the hardware that depended on it, which never got ported/updated to OSX.

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RE[4]: Comment by neticspace
by zima on Fri 15th Dec 2017 21:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by neticspace"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Though classic MacOS ~recreation could avoid some architectural pitfalls of it while taking advantage of modern hardware, and providing the same GUI and app compatibility. Kinda like (but not quite...) FreeDOS or DOSbox do for DOS, or Amitlhon or AROS do for AmigaOS.

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RE[3]: Comment by neticspace
by unclefester on Fri 15th Dec 2017 02:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by neticspace"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

I find it hilarious that mankind has a very successful and complete BeOS clone, yet bigger successes like Classic Mac OS, OS/2 etc have no real successful clones at all...


OS/2 is a poor mans Windows 2000 and Classic Mac is complete rubbish. IMO neither is worth cloning.

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RE[4]: Comment by neticspace
by Sabon on Fri 15th Dec 2017 17:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by neticspace"
Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

That’s either a joke or never used, or REALLY used OS/2.

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