OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/17710/Screenshots_of_Haiku_Serving_Webpage Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:37:53 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Amazing stuff. http://osnews.com/thread?231412 http://osnews.com/thread?231412 Nice to see that the net_stack is coming along nicely. According to some people its allready better than R4.0 (wich was not much to write home about, but still) Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (judgen) Comments RE: Amazing stuff. http://osnews.com/thread?231415 http://osnews.com/thread?231415 Considering how talented Hugo is, if the guy keeps this pace and decides to keep contributing after GSoC is over, I'd wager it is going to beat the hell out of not only net_server, but perhaps even BONE itself.

Go Hugo!

[/cheerleading] Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (meianoite) Comments It needs to be said... http://osnews.com/thread?231436 http://osnews.com/thread?231436 HAMP stack, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle) Edited 2007-04-16 23:21 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raynevandunem) Comments schweet http://osnews.com/thread?231437 http://osnews.com/thread?231437 even as a proof of concept, this is simply amazing!

(Moderately) complex R5 binaries running in Haiku,
Haiku and it's network stack being functional albeit unstable.

: ) Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mmadia) Comments RE[2]: Amazing stuff. http://osnews.com/thread?231439 http://osnews.com/thread?231439 Can't wait for R1+, that's all I've got to say on this topic. I've seen the changes being reported by the "bot" on freenode, it's pretty impressive!

Keep up the great work, Hugo, it's very much appreciated. ;) Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ormandj) Comments Self-effacing much? http://osnews.com/thread?231446 http://osnews.com/thread?231446 "Hey. We just reached a point in our OS's development that most OSs will never get to -- but pay it no mind, this really isn't anything important."

Oh really? I think that this is something amazing that should be getting a lot of attention, myself. They should be giving themselves some credit! Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments The underdog http://osnews.com/thread?231459 http://osnews.com/thread?231459 I'm not too sure why, but I'm really rooting for Haiku. I can't wait until they have R1+ published. I really think this is the fresh air for alternative desktop OS's. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (th3rmite) Comments whoo hoo! http://osnews.com/thread?231463 http://osnews.com/thread?231463 Good step forward! While it may not demonstastrate what haiku is all about, it is without a doubt a huge leap forward in the network department. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (imstillatwork) Comments Wasn't really my idea... http://osnews.com/thread?231474 http://osnews.com/thread?231474 I really have to give credit to Jonathon Thompson for the idea - I just grabbed the ball and ran with it ;)

Hugo has been pounding out the netstack fixes/updates lately which probably helped Haiku enough to pull it off - and of course, all the core Haiku devs are awesome! Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments Yay http://osnews.com/thread?231475 http://osnews.com/thread?231475 Congratulations ;) Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elmindreda) Comments RE: Wasn't really my idea... http://osnews.com/thread?231490 http://osnews.com/thread?231490 Thanks, Urias... at the relatively low bandwidth, this is a fairly light test, but it is useful to see where the holes still are in a real-life environment, and it has been useful.

Here's hoping soon your machine will peg your bandwidth without problems soon! Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JonathanBThompson) Comments Security http://osnews.com/thread?231504 http://osnews.com/thread?231504 I wonder if they have the competence to make a secure netstack though... Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (predictor) Comments RE: Security http://osnews.com/thread?231507 http://osnews.com/thread?231507
I wonder if they have the competence to make a secure netstack though...

Judging by what the Haiku team have pulled off so far, I would not be in the least surprised if they do.

Consider the complexity of implementing a network stack from scratch in the first place, never mind an operating system.

Then, look at all the documentation with source code available from solid, secure and stable network stacks and I don't see how they can get it wrong.

*BSD and Linux is a great start when checking out other implementations and I doubt I'm the only person on this planet to have thought of that.

Nice to see the Haiku project really build up steam, I was a bit worried far a while there. :-) Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SReilly) Comments RE: Security http://osnews.com/thread?231515 http://osnews.com/thread?231515 do YOU have the competence to make a secure net stack? If so, why not help them out? ;) One must look at their own competence before attacking someone else's. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (computrius) Comments Compatibility http://osnews.com/thread?231517 http://osnews.com/thread?231517 It keeps getting better and better :-)

Can someone tell me if it's more like Netserver or more like BONE? I mean, Haiku will be R5 compatible, so the this new networking stack must be Netserver compatible.

Since Netserver kind of sucks, Be created BONE. Will this new netstack be something like BONE (Unix-like) with a netserver compatible API?
Or is Haiku R1 only BONE compatible? Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (testadura) Comments RE: Compatibility http://osnews.com/thread?231530 http://osnews.com/thread?231530 To my knowledge, Haiku is aiming for compatibility with both BONE and net_server, and that their netstack is based off of the one in freebsd 6.0 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wing) Comments RE[2]: Compatibility http://osnews.com/thread?231541 http://osnews.com/thread?231541 Axel discussed the design of the Haiku netstack with the other developers for a while, and then he designed Haiku's own netstack from scratch. Of course he looked at the other implementations and borrowed good ideas, mostly from BONE AFAIK. But it is wrong to say that the Haiku netstack is *based* on the freebsd 6.0 stack or any other. The Haiku stack is not a port, and the pros and cons of that decision were well discussed.

Best regards,
-Stephan Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stippi) Comments Benews http://osnews.com/thread?231544 http://osnews.com/thread?231544 This site should be renamed HaikuNews ;) Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jeanmarc) Comments RE: Compatibility http://osnews.com/thread?231549 http://osnews.com/thread?231549 Since the others didn't answer in as much detail, leaving readers to possibly wonder, I'll provide a little clarification:

The new Haiku stack is closer to BONE, yes, and is intended to be at least as powerful, but it will have a userspace interface for backwards compatibility with Netserver, but unlike NetServer, and like BONE, it will exist entirely in kernel space.

Other relevant details have been covered sufficiently by other posters before I saw your post, but I can add one minor addition/clarification to a statement made below: the Haiku stack isn't based off any other stack as discussed on the discussion lists, because the locking model of Haiku is too different to the point where it would likely be as hard to replicate a BSD-like stack without employing a BKL (Big Kernel Lock) or otherwise compromising the kernel for SMP support and scalability. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JonathanBThompson) Comments RE: Benews http://osnews.com/thread?231576 http://osnews.com/thread?231576 This site should be renamed HaikuNews ;)

I like news about Haiku and other alternative oses a lot more then any Vista or Linux news.
For me, that's why I come to OSnews.Edited 2007-04-17 13:42 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bully) Comments RE[2]: Benews http://osnews.com/thread?231577 http://osnews.com/thread?231577 fully agreed, so altOSnews.com ;)
(Haikunews exist already anyway)Edited 2007-04-17 13:41 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jeanmarc) Comments RE[2]: Amazing stuff. http://osnews.com/thread?231589 http://osnews.com/thread?231589 Yeah amazing.

Do you want I take a picture of linux serving a webpage too ? Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Duffman) Comments RE: Benews http://osnews.com/thread?231619 http://osnews.com/thread?231619 I was wondering the same thing...fine if there is real news to show, but I just see this as very minor. Ok for a slow day, but come one, this is ridiculous. Considering how much news is out there, this site is really going down hell. OSNews team, please take a basic journalism class so you can learn the basics. I find it quite idiotic that there is every little bit of meaningless articles linked here when it involves Haiku, Ubuntu or whatever, yet there seems to be a complete void in any news for Windows Server 2007. Fact is, this new OS will be dealt with by many people. I would prefer to see news on something I will actually have to work on at some point that news about a geek OS that many will never see. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ssa2204) Comments Syllable SkyOs, etc http://osnews.com/thread?231629 http://osnews.com/thread?231629 It will be interesting to see what reactions will rise in other OS development.

We all know that Syllable, SkyOS, ReactOS were made for the SAME goals Haiku has.. POWERING DESKTOP COMPUTING.

To me, and I'm saying this for a long long time here on OSnews, Haiku is the favourite and most compelling. Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tanner) Comments yep http://osnews.com/thread?233820 http://osnews.com/thread?233820 yes, it's cool

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