Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Feb 2006 18:17 UTC, submitted by Linuxfanboy
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Sun has purportedly gone out of its way to draw Linux developers to its hardware platform. Analysts even say that Sun has finally made peace with Linux. But if you look at their web site they appear to have a different story to tell as they attempt to build community support for Solaris10. Frankly, we believe Linux beats Sun in so many categories that we don't even have a race. While Sun wants you to 'get the facts' we notice that they persist in comparing Solaris10 to Red Hat's enterprise model. But that's not the only Linux out there."
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RE[4]: Weird topic?
by Smartpatrol on Tue 28th Feb 2006 21:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Weird topic?"
Smartpatrol
Member since:
2005-07-06

Um Like 72 CPU 576GB RAM E25k's not to mention PC hardware doesn't compair to SUN hardware as far as reliability and robustness.

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RE[5]: Weird topic?
by sbergman27 on Tue 28th Feb 2006 22:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Weird topic?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

> Um Like 72 CPU 576GB RAM E25k's not to mention PC hardware doesn't compair to SUN hardware as far as reliability and robustness.

Which nicely demonstrates that:

(Linux + OpenSolaris) > Linux
(Linux + OpenSolaris) > Solaris

Linux would not be able to run that E25k as well as Solaris. (If at all. I don't know.)

Conversely, I have tried to install various versions of Solaris on various (x86) hardware over the last several years, and the installation always aborts very early on. To be honest, the hardware, while fairly vanilla, was never bought specifically to run Solaris, but still...

Solaris can go places that Linux can't at this time. Linux can go places that Solaris can't at this time.

And that increases the strength of POSIX-like OSes, in general.

Throw in the BSD's, some of which can go places that neither Linux nor Solaris can, and it is even better.

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RE[6]: Weird topic?
by DeadFishMan on Wed 1st Mar 2006 09:22 in reply to "RE[5]: Weird topic?"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Linux would not be able to run that E25k as well as Solaris. (If at all. I don't know.)

Linux can match that number of CPUs and it already runs much more. See SGI's Altix, which can handle up to 512 Itanics and address several terabytes of RAM, thanks to their NUMA technology. It's sad that SGI is passing through hard times right now, with such powerful product on their hands.

I believe that SGI is trying to sell their stuff to the same market that Sun's pursuing, at least on the high-end front.

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RE[5]: Weird topic?
by theine on Tue 28th Feb 2006 22:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Weird topic?"
theine Member since:
2005-09-29

Um Like 72 CPU 576GB RAM E25k's not to mention PC hardware doesn't compair to SUN hardware as far as reliability and robustness.

Hmmm, let's see... On Sun's webpage it says that the E25k is designed for the following key applications:

- Business Processing
- Databases
- Data Warehouses
- IT Infrastructure
- Application Serving
- Compute-intensive Scientific Engineering

Again, where exactly does Linux not compete?

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RE[6]: Weird topic?
by bsdero on Wed 1st Mar 2006 02:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Weird topic?"
bsdero Member since:
2005-08-29


Hmmm, let's see... On Sun's webpage it says that the E25k is designed for the following key applications:

- Business Processing
- Databases
- Data Warehouses
- IT Infrastructure
- Application Serving
- Compute-intensive Scientific Engineering

Again, where exactly does Linux not compete?

Well, of course when any ix86 architecture server can't handle the same high load and troughput that the e25k server.

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RE[5]: Weird topic?
by renox on Thu 2nd Mar 2006 09:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Weird topic?"
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

Well SGI sells Altix with a huge number of x86 CPU with Linux too.
So OS-wise, Linux seems to be able to scale to a big number of CPU too.

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