Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 30th Apr 2006 16:13 UTC, submitted by Soulbender
OpenBSD "Freedom, openness, security - these principles lead OpenBSD development. The song for this release, Blob!, and the new artworks that promote them. Federico Biancuzzi interviewed OpenBSD's team of Blob-Busters and discussed new features of OpenBSD 3.9 along with freedom (and quality!) threats."
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Janizary
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2006-03-12

No, Ubuntu has the ndis wrapper.

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maxx_730 Member since:
2005-12-14

Uhm. Ndiswrapper is licensed GPL isn't it? Wouldn't this analogy make Wine evil too?

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Bink Member since:
2006-02-19

Ndiswrapper would not exist if the driver was open source to begin with.

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Janizary Member since:
2006-03-12

No, because Wine does not throw garbage binaries into the kernel - the ndis wrapper does. Binary garbage is stuff you should not trust in the kernel space, how hard is this for you to understand?

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mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

I think there's nothing wrong with using closed source software in an open source distribution when there is no alternative yet and the component is really important like ndiswrapper.

Ubuntu supports almost all hardware and ndiswrapper has a very important role in that.
That's why Ubuntu has a large usergroup and I think that is important enough for now to make some compromizes.

In the future, when the usergroup is large enough, and I mean larger than the people using closed non-free software it all adds up because there will be enough free and open alternatives.

Neitherless, OpenBSD is great, there's nothing like it and it is and will always be my favorite distribution to run on server systems but I don't think the usergroup will get any larger than it is now because of their principals and I think that's a pity, OpenBSD deserves more and to make that happen you have to get rid of your principals sometimes.

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Janizary Member since:
2006-03-12

Well, OpenBSD disagrees with your definitions. Closed source software is fine, but you're including the operating system in that definition - drivers are a part of the system. If the system cannot be properly maintained it may as well not be used, that's why NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux distributions are being scolded.

By voiding the entire purpose of the operating system ndis users void the benifit of their operating system.

If you don't have a spine from the get go, you're only going to get a userbase of spineless punks, so you will never get away with removing something these punks find useful or important.

By having an actual backbone, morals and character, OpenBSD builds a userbase with those traits. Which I think is better than having a large one.

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