Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sat 15th Jul 2006 02:24 UTC
Linux Finally Linux has got full read-write open source NTFS support! Preliminary benchmarks show that the still unoptimized driver already sometimes twice as fast as ext3 and 20-50 faster than the commercial Paragon NTFS. Interestingly Captive NTFS, which uses the native Windows NTFS driver, fails all benchmarks with file loss.
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RE: Microsoft wins again
by dimosd on Sat 15th Jul 2006 10:51 UTC
dimosd
Member since:
2006-02-10

This may seem good news, but I don't think they're that good.

Comrade Knuckles is right. We must resist the temptation of Capitalist-Imperialist ways! I say, we close the borders and keep this NTFS decadence out!

Joe "Dualbooting" Doe scratches his head. Comrade Linus scratches his head as well.

:-)

Edited 2006-07-15 10:52

RE[2]: Microsoft wins again
by Knuckles on Sat 15th Jul 2006 11:55 in reply to "RE: Microsoft wins again"
Knuckles Member since:
2005-06-29

Well, it seems one can't have an opinion without being called a communist.

I just said that ntfs read/write support is going to create another de-facto standard around a non-documented non-free format controlled by microsoft. But I am not opposed at all to ntfs read support, in fact what I think is that read support is more than welcome, and I use it in some of my pc's.

But I think it's just easy to start shooting around instead of joining in with your opinion like the rest of us.

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RE[3]: Microsoft wins again
by dimosd on Sat 15th Jul 2006 13:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Microsoft wins again"
dimosd Member since:
2006-02-10

But I think it's just easy to start shooting around instead of joining in with your opinion like the rest of us.

I probably sounded a lot more rude than I thought, sorry for that. I happen to be in the camp that favours technology over idealism, and your opinion reminded me the case of Kororaa Live CD, GPL evangelists doing more harm than good (IMHO)

I don't think that fully supporting NTFS will harm Linux and the open source world any more than Samba hurted it.

Anyway, a good quality, safe, complete R/W ext3 driver for Windows would work about as well for my needs. I know one is in the works, but I have read stories about filesystem corruption... it's not there yet.

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RE[3]: Microsoft wins again
by DigitalAxis on Sat 15th Jul 2006 14:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Microsoft wins again"
DigitalAxis Member since:
2005-08-28

I understand what you're saying, but the problem is, it's ALREADY a de-facto standard. Nearly every computer system sold since 2002 has had Windows XP on it, and I'm willing to bet most of THEM are using NTFS.
Unless you have an issue with people no longer reformatting their hard drives with FAT32 just to dual-boot Linux (like I did) I don't see this as a problem.

Now that Linux apparently has NTFS support, what they've done is plug an obvious hole in Linux. The average user doesn't care that Windows can't read Reiser3, HFS+ or XFS; what they care about and notice is that Linux (this 'miracle' OS) can't even read their hard drive.

We're talking about people who may want to switch, but have zero tolerance for anything going wrong. As stupid as this sounds, Desktop Linux has to beat Microsoft at its own game because that's what the average person assumes a computer is.

And of course, since I fully expect Microsoft to continue to redefine the terms of the game to benefit themselves, I expect they'll change the version of NTFS in Windows Vista so it won't work as well/at all with this new driver. Then again, they pushed back WinFS so I don't know what else they might have modified or updated.

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