Linked by Thomas Hormby on Mon 2nd Oct 2006 19:11 UTC
Apple Over its thirty year history, Apple has survived and even thrived despite boneheaded business decisions. From pricing the Macintosh out of most consumers' reach to creating some really ugly computers, Apple has made a lot of bad decisions.
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RE[4]: Hate'em or love'em...
by alcibiades on Tue 3rd Oct 2006 07:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Hate'em or love'em..."
alcibiades
Member since:
2005-10-12

rayiner is right and wrong.

Its right that duplicating a mac in hardware terms will usually end up with the same price or higher. And its right that doing this in particular with the Mini will end up either with a higher priced AOpen version or a very poorly performing mini-ITX.

But its wrong to think this shows that Apple is a price effective choice. If you want to see why this is so, go to www.macwarehouse.co.uk and see what you get for less than the price of a Mini on the non-Mac side of the house.

However, in all those tens of better performing lower priced systems, you'll not find one that duplicates the form factor or the precise configuration.

Nevertheless, for most people, they are better and cheaper buys.

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

http://sys.us.shuttle.com/BuildXPC.aspx?id=1175">Shuttle is basically the same as the mini. It's a hundred dollars more, but it's easier to work on which definitely makes up for the price difference.

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RE[6]: Hate'em or love'em...
by rayiner on Tue 3rd Oct 2006 23:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Hate'em or love'em..."
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually, it's more than $200 more expensive, or a full 30%, if you match the CPU speed (1.67 GHz Core Duo) and the WiFi functionality.

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RE[6]: Hate'em or love'em...
by mrswine on Wed 4th Oct 2006 16:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Hate'em or love'em..."
mrswine Member since:
2006-10-04

you said: "Shuttle X100 is basically the same as the mini. It's a hundred dollars more, but it's easier to work on which definitely makes up for the price difference."

Nothing is the same as the mini if it doesn't run Mac OS X. Sorry, but like many on this topic, you seem to think that the hardware is all that matters.
Which may be true in your world... but not in mine.

Edited 2006-10-04 16:30

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RE[5]: Hate'em or love'em...
by rayiner on Wed 4th Oct 2006 00:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Hate'em or love'em..."
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

It depends on the machine. The Mini is definitely in this category (you can get better and cheaper machines if you ignore form factor). The new iMacs are only partially in that category (you pay a $100 or $200 for the form factor, which is tolerable on a $1000-$2000 machine). The Mac Pro is completely not in this category. For the price of a Mac Pro, you could barely buy the parts that go in it.

On a $2500 Mac Pro, the wholesale price of the CPUs (2x $750), motherboard ($350), and RAM ($200) comes to over $2000. Throw in a case comparable to those Lian-Li ones costing $150+, a good PSU, a 7300GT, a HDD, bluetooth/wifi card, etc, you're going to be hard pressed to keep it under $2500, even before you consider shipping costs and the cost of assembly.

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