Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Oct 2006 22:08 UTC
Oracle and SUN Here is OSNews' review of Xandros Desktop Home Edition Premium version 4.0 (a mouthfull). Xandros Systems was so kind as to provide OSNews with the top of the line version of their product, which includes, among other things, complete copies of Versora Progression Desktop, CrossOver Office, and various non-Free drivers and utilities. Read on for the complete review.
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RE[7]: Activation.
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 6th Oct 2006 15:48 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Activation."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Thom, don't be silly. There is evidence that software piracy exists, and that crime exists. That doesn't mean you or I can legitimately accuse the other of being a software pirate, a thief or a rapist without any evidence that the other has in fact pirated, stolen, or sexually assaulted some{thing,one}.

So let me get this straight-- by having an activation scheme in its OS... Xandros accuses me of being a pirate? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense.

In The Netherlands, students get subsidised by the state. The amount of this depends on whether I live with my parents, or alone; when I live alone, I get a lot more money from them. The government checks whether I *really* live on my own. Does that mean the government thinks I'm a fraud?

Of course not.

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RE[8]: Activation.
by twenex on Fri 6th Oct 2006 15:58 in reply to "RE[7]: Activation."
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

So let me get this straight-- by having an activation scheme in its OS... Xandros accuses me of being a pirate? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense.

In The Netherlands, students get subsidised by the state. The amount of this depends on whether I live with my parents, or alone; when I live alone, I get a lot more money from them. The government checks whether I *really* live on my own. Does that mean the government thinks I'm a fraud?

Of course not.


In England, when students were subsidised by the state, you would also get different money depending on your circumstances. If you were later found to have falsified your claims as to those circumstances, there would of course be penalties, just as if there would be penalties if you drank and drove, or were involved in a hit-and-run accident. That doesn't mean that a government inspector came to live with you to make sure you lived with your parents, or sat in the car with you to make sure you drove legally.

But what REALLY galls me about product activation is the stupid way it's implemented. Rather than calling them up, giving them a code, and then having a clean slate, you have to do it *every time you do a hardware change* or a reinstall, depending on the program. Or you do as I do and avoid such products.

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RE[9]: Activation.
by netpython on Fri 6th Oct 2006 16:34 in reply to "RE[8]: Activation."
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

*every time you do a hardware change*

To prevent (or try to prevent) more than one copy running on multiple pc's.

In case of xandros it's fair they don't want to waiste bandwith on non paying customers.

If you don't like it,don't buy it.

Without changing the current patent legislation it's likely that watching an encrypted DVD on a platform like linux will never be legal.A company such as cyberlink will want you to provide a rough estimation on how many packages with the propietary software included will be sold.the easiest way of enabling a close ( any,gets cracked anyway) estimation is by an activation mechanism.This is hypocryte because we all know there's hardly any activation that can't circumvented.

to play the "devils advocate":"Why should a regular custom be treated as a regular criminal,with a activation or other anti pirating mechanism which we all know isn't going to work (it's going to be cracked shortly).

"But what REALLY galls me about product activation is the stupid way it's implemented."

You're right it eventually boils down to the way in which the activation mechanism is implemented.But i'm afraid legal usage will forever have a penalty upon while hardly any anti piracy mechanism works.

Edited 2006-10-06 16:36

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