Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Oct 2006 18:47 UTC, submitted by tux68
Databases Red Hat has officially responded to Oracle's 'Unbreakable Linux' move. "The opportunity for Linux just got bigger. Oracle's support for Linux reaffirms Red Hat's technical industry leadership and the end of proprietary Unix. It's no accident that Red Hat was chosen #1 in value two years running. Want to know what else we think? Read on." This article has more reactions.
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Red Hat is spinning...
by tomcat on Fri 27th Oct 2006 19:40 UTC
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

Given that most of their revenue is derived from support and Oracle will now be playing in their pond, this can't be good news for RHAT.

As a customer, though, I like being able to choose between a number of vendors for support contacts.

This will reduce prices and increase quality.

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RE: Red Hat is spinning...
by amigascne on Fri 27th Oct 2006 20:00 in reply to "Red Hat is spinning..."
amigascne Member since:
2006-01-26

Red Hat has already annouced that they will not be reducing their prices as a result of this move by Oracle. And why should they? Let's consider the facts:

1. Unlike IBM, HP, etc. Oracle is NOT a Red Hat Support Partner. Therefore Oracle does not have access to Red Hat's back line engineers and developers. As a customer, this is a HUGE deal..
2. Oracle's respin of RHEL will not have the security certifications and evaluations that Red Hat's RHEL has unless Oracle plans to seek those evaluations itself. In any case, this means it wont be used at any government sites anytime soon.
3. If you're using any products from Red Hat beyond just RHEL, Oracle won't support those... So you would need to have a support contract with both Oracle and Red Hat.
4. Oracle claims that Unbreakable Linux will enjoy all of RHEL's ISV certifications. However, none of the ISV's (beyond Oracle) are saying that is true.

This could easily end up being a flop for Oracle and further strengthening Red Hat in the end. I guess only time will tell..

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RE[2]: Red Hat is spinning...
by Joe User on Fri 27th Oct 2006 20:13 in reply to "RE: Red Hat is spinning..."
Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

This could easily end up being a flop for Oracle and further strengthening Red Hat in the end. I guess only time will tell..

I second this.

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RE: Red Hat is spinning...
by sbenitezb on Fri 27th Oct 2006 20:31 in reply to "Red Hat is spinning..."
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

It's simple. Oracle specializes in databases. Red Hat in server operating systems. Would you choose a support contract from Oracle for a Red Hat OS? This is stupid.

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RE[2]: Red Hat is spinning...
by tomcat on Fri 27th Oct 2006 20:34 in reply to "RE: Red Hat is spinning..."
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

What makes you think that Oracle is the primary provider here? My guess is that they will sub out this work.

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RE[2]: Red Hat is spinning...
by jamesd on Sat 28th Oct 2006 16:52 in reply to "RE: Red Hat is spinning..."
jamesd Member since:
2006-01-17

People running oracle on red hat are going to love this, today when they hit a road block and need support, they call oracle and if the problem isn't easy to solve the support tech passes the buck and says "call red hat" its there problem, now if user buys OS and Database support from oracle there is no passing the buck, its okay i have a problem and i want a fix, its your OS and your DB, how do i fix this.

Also who has more experience supporting enterprise customers? its not Red Hat, they are the new kids on the block, Oracle has been supporting the enterprise for over 20 years. This is all old hat, they are expert, they know the database, and know the OS inside and out because they have had to fix all problems with the OS, and frankly you can buy linux kernel gurus for a dime a dozen compared to oracle experts.

This is also a great marketing tool, they become the one stop shopping for OS, database, and middleware.

of course if you want to stay out of this fight you have another option that I cover at my blog http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/10/its-not-good-business-to-be-in-m...

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