Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 4th Apr 2007 18:02 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Geeks.com were once more very kind to send us one of their products for a review. Geeks sells cheap laptops --among others-- and so we asked for a low-cost laptop without an operating system in it for the purpose of this review. They sent us the IBM T23, (currently selling for just $299) and an extra 256 MB stick of RAM ($30). We tested the laptop with three different OSes, read on for more.
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Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

I won't fall into your Linux trap, because each time I try another linux distro and find bugs, there will be ANOTHER user will say that I should have used HIS favorite distro. So, I decided to only use the most popular distro, and that's Ubuntu at this point in time.

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arctic Member since:
2006-04-19

I am not a fan of Ubuntu but -damn it - you tested a BETA RELEASE (!) on the laptop!! No wonder you ran into grave bugs. Doh! If you want to write a fair article, then test the same lappy with the Windows XP Beta release and other OS's that are still developmental versions.

Two thumbs down from me.

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Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

The final version of Ubuntu comes out in 10 days, they are in freeze mode. If you expect miracles and fixing of all these 6 major bugs in 10 days (especially because there is no living soul who maintains the savage driver), then you are living in your own world. When Ubuntu ships, these bugs I mentioned will STILL be there. Except myself and another guy who also owns a T23 laptop and was able to reproduce the bugs, no one else have responded in my T23-related bug reports at Ubuntu.

I beg you to email me after the release of Ubuntu Feisty and to ask me if the bugs were fixed (or simply check at the bugzilla's url yourself and check my T23 bugs out to see if they will be fixed or not).

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Hands Member since:
2005-06-30

I have to agree with other users that your choice of Linux distribution could have been better. I recently tried Feisty. Since it was beta software, I wasn't terribly surprised that I had to abandon it after a few days.

I appreciate the additional perspective of Feisty provided by your review, and I can understand your desire to use a recent copy of what you consider to be the most popular distro at the moment. I also commend you for submitting bug reports, but I would have liked to read about your experience with another distro. By definition different distributions have different strengths and weaknesses. Ubuntu hardly covers all of Linux.

I understand that there are always those who whine about how their distribution should have been used because "it would have worked." Unfortunately, if you only try one distribution, readers have no way of knowing if a bug is specific to Ubuntu or if there might be a bug that would cause a problem with Linux in general. Anything that aims to be a good fit for the desktop would be good, but obviously it would help to try at least two distributions that don't share repositories. The use of just one more distribution (I don't care which one) would have made this review much better in my opinion.

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nicholas Member since:
2005-07-07

Eugenia, could you do me a favour and try using the Scitech SNAP driver for Linux on the T23 and see if it fares any better?

My 3yr old Athlon64 laptop has broken and I was considering buying a second hand T23 as a stopgap measure until i can afford another decent laptop.

If it causes so many problems runing Linux then I will have look for another el-cheapo alternative.

Thanks, Nik.

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Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Give me URL of the SNAP driver and I will try it for you.

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camo r Member since:
2005-08-26

@nicholas

Thanks for your request on this board. To ask for help instead of uselessy ranting how *nix y or z is better on x or y hardware.

And kudos to eugenia for helping him out with the request.

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