Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jun 2007 23:09 UTC, submitted by thebluesgnr
GNU, GPL, Open Source The FSF today released version 3 of the GNU GPL, the popular free software license. "Since we founded the free software movement, over 23 years ago, the free software community has developed thousands of useful programs that respect the user's freedom. The programs are in the GNU/Linux operating system, as well as personal computers, telephones, Internet servers, and more. Most of these programs use the GNU GPL to guarantee every user the freedom to run, study, adapt, improve, and redistribute the program," said Richard Stallman, founder and president of the FSF. This article has some interesting replies from the BSD community (right in the middle).
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RE[10]: GNU/Freedom
by lemur2 on Sat 30th Jun 2007 15:22 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: GNU/Freedom"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

And at the same time they are usingi terms like "Tivoisation", the license ain't nothing but a game of words, don't even quote it, because is useless.


Here is what "Tivoisation" means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoisation
"Tivoization is the creation of a system that incorporates software under the terms of a copyleft software license, but uses hardware to prevent users from running modified versions of the software on that hardware."

Once again, this is talking about software (not hardware), and how you may not restrict the software that is covered by the GPL in a certain way.

But invalidate it, is the same as preventing.


Interesting. How exactly does the "Tivoisation" clause "invalidate" DRM ... especially hardware DRM applied to (say) music files or videos?

This will be good. I'm waiting.

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RE[11]: GNU/Freedom
by Yuske on Sat 30th Jun 2007 15:24 in reply to "RE[10]: GNU/Freedom"
Yuske Member since:
2005-07-28

"but uses hardware to prevent users from running modified versions of the software on that hardware."

It also says Hardware

Interesting. How exactly does the "Tivoisation" clause "invalidate" DRM ... especially hardware DRM applied to (say) music files or videos?

You have to be a retard to not understand that it makes you give away the keys to invalidate it.

But you are not a retard, just a manipulator like the FSF is.

Edited 2007-06-30 15:31

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RE[12]: GNU/Freedom
by lemur2 on Sat 30th Jun 2007 15:34 in reply to "RE[11]: GNU/Freedom"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

You have to be a retard to not understading that it makes you give away the keys to invalidate it.


No, you don't.

If you want to make a fully closed system, then you should not use GPL software in that system. GPL software is not meant for such a system.

If you want to use GPL software as part of a system with DRM, and you don't want to give away any keys, then just don't make the DRM protection cover the GPL software. Don't make a fully closed, system. Make a system say with two partitions, one partition for system software (make that modifiable), and another partition for digital media files and make that partition only protected by the DRM.

See? The GPLv3 simply does not "make you give away the keys". There are at least two ways to use GPLv3 software and DRM in the same system without having to give away any keys.

The GPLv3 does not "invalidate" DRM. Dare I say it, but "You have to be a retard to not understad" (sic) that.

Edited 2007-06-30 15:35

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