Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 1st Jul 2007 15:21 UTC
Editorial Sometimes, Apple's (or any other software maker's) complete lack of respect for usability never ceases to amaze me. Take today for example. Apart from the close, minimise, and "maximise" widgets Apple places on window decors, there is also a fourth widget programmers on the Apple platform can use. This widget resembles a sort of dash, and is placed on the top right corner of the window decor. This widget is used in many applications, both from Apple as well as from various third parties. It has one function: toggle the visibility of the window's toolbar.
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arielb
Member since:
2006-11-15

when you multitask you don't one want one app taking over the whole screen. Many Windows users are still in the old MS-DOS mentality of using one app at a time, maximized, and using alt tab to switch. maybe there should be another button for that. But optimal windows management with multiple windows is a pretty tricky problem and Apple at least attempts to address it.

fluxbox i've heard also tries to solve these problems

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

when you multitask you don't one want one app taking over the whole screen.

Your way is no better than anyone else's.

I often want to make sure that I am seeing everything I can within an application and I want to obcure desktop clutter and other windows (when I "multi-task").

I might also ask, if no Apple users work with maximized windows, then, why the complaints from Apple users in this thread about the wonky "maximize" button and what is the purpose of "Expose?"

By the way, there are several Linux tiling window managers with strong followings, and the users of these WMs multitask and switch between maximized and tiled windows. I would bet that they can navigate multiple windows faster than any Apple/Windows mouse-clicker, even with (ESPECIALLY with) Expose.

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zetsurin Member since:
2006-06-13

"when you multitask you don't one want one app taking over the whole screen. Many Windows users are still in the old MS-DOS mentality of using one app at a time, maximized, and using alt tab to switch."

Well, just because the OS multitasks doesn't mean people have to flick around mindlessly switching applications. If someone is browsing/using photoshop/programming/etc for an extended period of time, then why not use all the screen for that one purposes. Likewise, what wrong with Alt-Tab to switch apps anyway? Apple appears to like the idea ;) I'm an apple user by the way and maximise my VMWare often when doing Windows programming. You know, things like Expose actually make maximised apps very logical and easy to control under OSX. I don't think judging other people's use of the computer is an acceptable justification of what I think is simply a shortcoming of OSX.

EDIT: Freaky, seems like I agree with tupp, who obviously types a bit quicker than me ;)

Edited 2007-07-01 22:46

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kittynipples Member since:
2006-08-02

well, if you don't like how osx manages application windows, then find something else you prefer more. pretty simple.

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