Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 12th Jul 2007 19:23 UTC, submitted by wibbit
Apple Apple has bought the CUPS code base, and has hired it's lead developer. "CUPS was written by Michael R Sweet, an owner of Easy Software Products. In February of 2007 Apple Inc. hired Michael and acquired ownership the CUPS source code. While Michael is primarily working on non-CUPS projects, he will continue to develop and support CUPS, which is still being released under the existing GPL2/LGPL2 licensing terms."
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RE[6]: Re: Say What?
by Adam S on Thu 12th Jul 2007 21:20 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Re: Say What?"
Adam S
Member since:
2005-04-01

Which large software projects has Apple contributed to as opposed to *leeched off*.


All of these softwares are open source and available for you to use as you please: Webkit. Bonjour/Rendevous. Darwin. OpenDirectory.

More at http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

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RE[7]: Re: Say What?
by cyclops on Thu 12th Jul 2007 21:45 in reply to "RE[6]: Re: Say What?"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

I'm glad you took time to respond.

webkit is a branch of KHTML, as opposed to Apple *contributing* to KHTML.

Bonjour/Open Directory is Apples own code.

Darin actually includes nothing interesting like API for Carbon and Cocoa APIs or the Quartz Compositor and Aqua user interface, its own drivers are binary, yet is from FreeBSD

Apple is leeching of open source developers again these services have equivalents in the GNU world, Apple *contributed* to none of them.

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RE[8]: Re: Say What?
by ronaldst on Thu 12th Jul 2007 21:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Re: Say What?"
ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

Apple is leeching of open source developers again these services have equivalents in the GNU world, Apple *contributed* to none of them.


Apple contributed to Webkit/KHTML.

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RE[8]: Re: Say What?
by meianoite on Thu 12th Jul 2007 22:09 in reply to "RE[7]: Re: Say What?"
meianoite Member since:
2006-04-05

Darin actually includes nothing interesting like API for Carbon and Cocoa APIs or the Quartz Compositor and Aqua user interface, its own drivers are binary, yet is from FreeBSD

Darwin is not FreeBSD, and *plenty* of Apple-developed drivers are open as well. Just go and check the sources instead of just relaying words you heard elsewhere; your well-informed source unfortunately happened to be a troll.

Still: come on people! Have you *never* heard of NDAs?!?! You talk as if Apple naturally HAD to open up everything they licensed from someone else, from trivial but patented technology, to core drivers!

Sheesh.

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RE[8]: Re: Say What?
by Adam S on Thu 12th Jul 2007 22:21 in reply to "RE[7]: Re: Say What?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Apple is leeching of open source developers again these services have equivalents in the GNU world, Apple *contributed* to none of them.


Isn't that just a bit trivial and nitpicky? They took open source code, made changes, and released it again with improvements. Webkit was KHTML, but now it's Webkit and it's open source, and browsers like Shiira and Swift benefit from that code. Its still open source, they aren't responsible for retrofitting it to KDE's projects too, are they? Seriously, all fanboyism aside, isn't this the same goodwill?

I'm reminded of a line from A Few Good Men: "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it!"

Your computer may have benefitted from the open code that Apple wrote. It could, but to suggest they have an obligation to make their changes work in other software too is stretching it. In general, I think the distinction between contributing open code vs. contributing open code to a project is a trivial one though.

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