Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2007 13:56 UTC, submitted by Witek Wasilewski
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 7.10 has been released. "Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop Edition adds an enhanced user interface, improved hardware support, multiple monitor support and integrated desktop search. Ubuntu 7.10 Server Edition features improved functionality, manageability, pro-active security and hardware compatibility and delivers a rapid deployment platform for developers and businesses. New versions of Kubuntu and Edubuntu, derivatives of Ubuntu aimed at KDE enthusiasts and the education community respectively, are also being released at the same time." And a review. Update: One more review.
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X and WiFi
by Hands on Thu 18th Oct 2007 14:22 UTC
Hands
Member since:
2005-06-30

The too biggest problems for me whenever I try a distro tend to be graphics and wireless. I haven't had success in the past with Ubuntu because my X always got messed up really bad if I wasn't satisfied running at 640x480. I guess that my graphics chips are a bit less common. I'm looking forward to trying to get past my graphical issues with the new "bulletproof X" implementation.

If I can get past that, I'll have to see how the wireless goes. I have high hopes from things that I have read, but seeing will be believing.

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RE: X and WiFi
by DeadFishMan on Thu 18th Oct 2007 15:17 in reply to "X and WiFi"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

The too biggest problems for me whenever I try a distro tend to be graphics and wireless. I haven't had success in the past with Ubuntu because my X always got messed up really bad if I wasn't satisfied running at 640x480. I guess that my graphics chips are a bit less common. I'm looking forward to trying to get past my graphical issues with the new "bulletproof X" implementation.

I fail to see how the "bulletproof X" is going to help you here since, as far as I know, "bulletproof X" is basically a fall back option for the X server to start whenever it detects that cannot use the proper drivers for some reason and it is intended mainly for troubleshooting broken systems. I believe that it will use VESA at 640x480, 800x600 or something along these lines. Its main purpose is to never let people see the dreaded command prompt ever again in case that Nvidia or AMD/ATI drivers updates break something (as they invariably do from times to times), I guess.

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RE[2]: X and WiFi
by Hands on Thu 18th Oct 2007 20:21 in reply to "RE: X and WiFi"
Hands Member since:
2005-06-30

Let me explain briefly then. I don't have anything against Ubuntu, and I would like to be able to use it since there is so much community support. Unfortunately, as I said before, I haven't gotten past the graphical issues. I don't need everything to work perfectly out of the box either, but Ubuntu seems to have more graphical issues than I have seen in other distros (for my hardware).

Probably the biggest reason that I haven't gotten past the graphical issues is due to the fact that once X fails, I'm limited to a single CLI until I manually force X back into some sort of safe mode. From what I've read, the new system would allow me to make a change and test it out, and the worst result should be that I end up back in the same spot. That would make troubleshooting both faster and easier. Surely, it's not that hard to understand.

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RE: X and WiFi
by knightrider on Thu 18th Oct 2007 18:09 in reply to "X and WiFi"
knightrider Member since:
2006-12-11

Try Puppy Linux then sir.

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RE: X and WiFi
by Phloptical on Fri 19th Oct 2007 00:22 in reply to "X and WiFi"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

That's ok, Fedora Core 6 borked on my wifi card too, but somewhat displayed video correctly on a Radeon X1300, as long as the highest resolution was 1024x768. Any higher and that scrolling with your mouse thing would kick in which makes me completely insane and look to boot back into XP.

Always a tradeoff with this stuff. Ubuntu is really the only distro that (mostly) gets it all right the first time. Except for Fiesty running on a Thinkpad T61....forget it. Errors abound, even off the Live CD. I'll try Gutsy tomorrow at work and see how she does.

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