Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Dec 2007 16:32 UTC, submitted by lmvaz
OpenBSD Richard Stallman sent a message to OpenBSD-Misc, explaining why he doesn't recommend OpenBSD. "From what I have heard, OpenBSD does not contain non-free software (though I am not sure whether it contains any non-free firmware blobs). However, its ports system does suggest non-free programs, or at least so I was told when I looked for some BSD variant that I could recommend. I therefore exercise my freedom of speech by not including OpenBSD in the list of systems that I recommend to the public." His mail started a huge thread (that's just page 1) and since then he's under a blast of messages from Theo de Raadt and the OpenBSD users. De Raadt replied: "Richard, you are wrong. You said very clearly in your interview that the ports tree contains non-free software. It does not. It is just a scaffold of Makefiles containing URLs, and an occasional patch here or there. You are just plain wrong. And you are not enough of a man to admit that you are wrong. I may be unfriendly at times, but you are a power-misusing hypocritical liar who attacks projects that try harder than any others to only make free software available. Shame on you."
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This says it all
by fsckit on Mon 17th Dec 2007 20:43 UTC
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List: openbsd-misc
Subject: Re: Real men don't attack straw men
From: Ben Calvert <ben () flyingwalrus ! net>
Date: 2007-12-13 18:54:31
Message-ID: 6DAC809E-6C0D-4011-9A5B-6541DD0B5CD9 () flyingwalrus ! net
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Would everyone in the room who maintain a complete, working operating
system please raise their hands?

would everyone who is forced to co-opt or recommend other people's
operating systems... because their own is unfinished... please go away
and write some code or something?

thank you very much



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RE: This says it all
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Dec 2007 20:57 in reply to "This says it all"
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I'm such a nerd. I can't stop laughing, this is just too brilliant for the internet to contain.

Oh. My. God. What a reply. I'm out of popcorn ;) .

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RE[2]: This says it all
by Valhalla on Mon 17th Dec 2007 21:31 in reply to "RE: This says it all"
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does being a nerd mean you have to laugh at petty attacks? 'I maintain an BSD fork so I'm way cooler than you', or am I missing something here?' it's like being back at the schoolyard...

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RE: This says it all
by AdamW on Mon 17th Dec 2007 21:24 in reply to "This says it all"
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2005-07-06 says it all. In a thread titled "Real men don't attack straw men", someone attacks a straw man.

Well, it may not say it all, but it sure is ironic.

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