Linked by Adam S on Mon 11th Feb 2008 22:09 UTC, submitted by SK8T
Mac OS X Today, Apple has released the much anticipated Mac OS X 10.5.2. The hefty combo update weighs in at almost 350MB, but it can also be downloaded via Software Update. The updates includes general operating system improvements that enhance the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, as well as imrpoved Back to My Mac support, new view for Dock based folders, and much more.
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RE[3]: Finally
by gsquid on Tue 12th Feb 2008 08:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
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2008-02-12

Do you believe it is OK for a software company to knowingly release an unfinished and defective product, take people's money, and fix the product in their own sweet time?

If so, do you accept this kind of behavior from any other industry?

Edited 2008-02-12 08:45 UTC

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RE[4]: Finally
by KugelKurt on Tue 12th Feb 2008 12:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally"
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2005-07-06

Do you believe it is OK for a software company to knowingly release an unfinished and defective product, take people's money, and fix the product in their own sweet time?

It's a god damn dot-Oh release for god's sake and it works for most people without problems. There are users with problems, yes. But compared to the overall userbase, it's the minority. That's what I meant when I wrote that some of the 10 million users may have problems that were not obvious in the beta test. Do you really think that Leopard could become the fastest adopted Mac OS X release if it was a buggy pile of crap with its initial release?

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RE[4]: Finally
by kiz01 on Tue 12th Feb 2008 14:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally"
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2005-07-06

Do you believe it is OK for a software company to knowingly release an unfinished and defective product, take people's money, and fix the product in their own sweet time?

If so, do you accept this kind of behavior from any other industry?


How about the auto industry (ever seen a recall)?
How about laptops with exploding batteries?
How about recalls on infant carseats?
How about toys with lead paint?
How about bridges that collapse?

Just about everything has issues of one sort or another. If you're demanding absolute perfection, you're never going to get it. I'm not saying it's right but you're assuming that there's something willfully malicious in what Apple did. My guess is that it ran fine on all of their test hardware and the only step left was to release it to everybody and wait for all of the bugs they didn't find to get reported.

If it was malicious, they'd probably charge you for the bug fixes.

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RE[5]: Finally
by Tyr. on Thu 14th Feb 2008 11:26 in reply to "RE[4]: Finally"
Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

Good you bring up bridges. They used to be simple, a plank between 2 points, but now they are hugely complex structures and they need to be corrected from time to time to factor in complex interdependencies that arise ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Bridge_(London) )

As systems get more and more complex they need to be corrected more and more often and sometimes they break down for no clear reason. It's true for other complex systems too : like the human mind, society, superstructures, ... All can break down if corrections are not applied in time.

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