Hot on the heels of an AMD antitrust lawsuit against Intel and a recent ruling in Japan that found that Intel abused its monopoly power, European Comission officials and competition authorities from several European countries raided the offices of Intel and several computer manufacturers. These "inspections" were probably carried out under article 81 of the EU Treaty, which prohibits price fixing and other distortions of competition within the EU.
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Member since:2005-07-06
"Just a quick google becaus I'm pretty lazy; If you have the time you could come up with better references : :"
The links you posted are from Aug of last year. I have searched around and not found anything that looks credible that is newer then OCT04.
"Companies put the customer before profit ? Are you posting from the sixties ? "
Not sure what you mean by that comment?
Your orig comment was that prices will go up for consumers if Dell does not get a discount from Intel, and my arguement is that, in the long run, prices will be lower for consumers in a truly competive market. Not one that is price controlled by Intel.
Member since:2005-07-11
Not sure what you mean by that comment?
I think was he meant was just a more polite way of saying "are you on crack?". This is what customers mean to Dell (and they arent the only ones like this):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/11/dell_customer_support/
Member since:2005-07-06
The links you posted are from Aug of last year. I have searched around and not found anything that looks credible that is newer then OCT04.[i]
I don't think CEO's of internal corporations are as forgiving as you are. They tend to look at a company's historic record.
I think the difference is mostly on new chips. Intel has a bigger capacity and bigger financial reserves, so it can start off with a bigger production and take a bigger risk on a new chip because thay can afford it.
[i]Your orig comment was that prices will go up for consumers if Dell does not get a discount from Intel, and my arguement is that, in the long run, prices will be lower for consumers in a truly competive market. Not one that is price controlled by Intel.
Economic theory is against you there. With 2 major players having control of nearly 100% of the processor market for pc-class systems this market is defined as a monopoly (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_ratio ) What we have here is a bid for more control by AMD, regardless of the outcome the chance it would benefit consumers is minimal. 2 players does not a competetive market make.
Also before I come off as some sort of Intel fanboy let me say I have owned Motorola,Cyrix,AMD and Powerpc based systems, not an Intel among them.
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2005-07-06
That is not a good argument. Discounts of this type usually end up as profits to a companies bottom line. Customers save money when there is a truly competitive environment.
Companies put the customer before profit ? Are you posting from the sixties ?
Not that I don't believe you, but can you please provide us some references
Just a quick google becaus I'm pretty lazy; If you have the time you could come up with better references : :
http://www.allamd.com/news_archives.php/story/566
"There seems to be a shortage of Athlon 64 and FX-53 processors in Europe, China and Taiwan. Since AMD slashed prices on the high end processors, the demand on them seems rather high."
http://www.allamd.com/news_archives.php/story/555
"ONCE AGAIN THE RUMOUR MILL is going wild with fanciful stories of AMD product shortages. This time, the rumours are not far off, there are huge AMD shortages, but no one has managed to nail down the reasons why."