Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Sep 2005 20:39 UTC, submitted by DigitalDame
Windows This week, Microsoft is handing out Vista build 5219 at its Professional Developers Conference in Los Angeles. PC Magazine was able to get their hands on it, trying out a number of new features and observing some slick-looking interface enhancements, such as true 3D windows views (with properly skewed video), thumbnail views for desktop apps, and a semi-transparent Taskbar. Take the guided tour to witness some of these new features in build 5219.
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RE[3]: VIsta
by l3v1 on Wed 14th Sep 2005 07:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: VIsta"
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About the Gnome shots: you should do better than that. Gnome is not my personal favourite, still I have it alwaysinstalled and use it from time to time and all I can say, pretty nice Gnome desktops can be built. Your shots are not one of those.

About the KDE shots: man, me being a KDE fan I can tell you the linked shot shows exactly nothing about what KDE 3.4.x has to offer. I don't like clutteret and bloated desktops, but still, even my KDE desktop looks much better and is much usable than any customized Windows desktops I ever made (and believe me, I did, from windowblinds through stylexp, with nice icon sets with samurize and so on) or saw.

Now come on. I don't say Vista can't do eyecandy. But comparing some Vista shots with personal ignorance won't make you prove anything worth reading.

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RE[4]: VIsta
by on Wed 14th Sep 2005 08:43 in reply to "RE[3]: VIsta"
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Ok, I knew those pictures I linked wasn't the best GNOME/KDE can offer but default themes.
I'm not big fan of eye candy if it isn't used properly, but at the moment Linux desktops lacks such of possibility and features.
I'm sure Cairo and KDE4 will make a lot but unfortunately there isn't many Cairo themes yet and it has some performance problems (CVS should be a lot better though).
I'm still a bit worried how Linux desktops can answer 3D desktops like Vista.
Mockups like this http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/28476-1.jpg are a bit better.
I don't say KDE or GNOME should be exactly like Vista/OSX but eye candy's etc. do much.

OT :-|

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RE[5]: VIsta
by on Wed 14th Sep 2005 09:26 in reply to "RE[4]: VIsta"
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There are different project such as Metisse and Croquets. But the most important is to modularize X.org which will be available this fall as 7.0 version. Desktop environment like Gnome and KDE use that modular version in the future.
All I think about Vista is how tighly integrated it is with its kernel to pull these kind of effects hence high specification requirement. IMHO, Vista is still monolithic.

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