Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Apr 2008 21:05 UTC, submitted by behdadesfahbod
X11, Window Managers Even though some users of the two desktops take every opportunity to make fun or flat-out attack one another, it is no secret to more reasonable people that the KDE and GNOME projects strive to make their respective desktops interoperate, and that the developers working on either of the two projects have a great deal of respect for one another. This has lead to an attempt to jointly organise the desktops' flagship conferences, in one place, in 2009.
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Make love, not war
by sbergman27 on Wed 23rd Apr 2008 01:05 UTC
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The behavior and attitude of the developers is, indeed, far more honorable than what is typically seen between fans of the respective DE's in these forums. I've noticed that generally what happens is that one person posts something, but happens to include some comment or choice of wording which the other "side" takes offense to. Often, it is not even central to the meaning of the original post. A member from the other "side" responds, and perhaps implies some other tangential and unrelated thing which becomes the new topic, and the "conversation" careens on from their. Frequently, I suspect, people end up being pushed into arguing for a position which, in retrospect, does not seem important enough to argue over, simply because someone attacked a remark they happened to make while trying to make a point about something that might actually have been worth discussing. The discussions tend to be all over the board, which is, I believe, a sign of oversensitivity by advocates on both "sides".

In honor of this not-just-symbolic development, let's try, in this story's threads, to remain aware of those factors which cause discussions to escalate into arguments which serve no useful purpose.

In particular, and despite our human tendency to choose teams, I think that it is important to reflect upon the idea that one size does not fit all. It is far better if people whose ideas on DE's you disagree with have someplace else to go and be happy, rather than be stuck on your favored DE's mailing lists moaning about how bad it is. Or worse, getting their way and ruining *your* desktop.

Also, I think that it is good to consider that, should "the other desktop" pull ahead in some compelling way, it's easy enough to switch. So there is no point in getting all emotionally involved with the choice that you have made. I used to be a KDE user. Now I'm a Gnome user. I very well could see myself a KDE user again, at some point in the future.

Another factor that is actually of little importance, but which tends to lead to senseless arguments is the topic of desktop share. What difference does it make as long as the users and developers of each respective desktop are happy, and there is healthy development going on in both camps. The topic is a real tinderbox. So it's probably best avoided. Expect it to dominate the thread once any claims have been made )are are perceived to have been made), no matter what the original topic was.

And finally, remember that the competition between two major desktops has benefits for both. And being able to share code and interfaces where philosophies and other requirements coincide, thereby avoiding needless fragmentation due to arbitrary choices, is also quite beneficial. And this announcement has a lot to do with just that.

Edited 2008-04-23 01:09 UTC

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