Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Apr 2008 05:52 UTC
Apple Yesterday (well, CET in any case), Apple posted its financial results for the second quarter of the 2008 fiscal year (which ended 29 March). While sales of Macintosh laptops and desktops soared to ever greater heights, and while sales of the iPod consolidated itself, the news is not so good for the iPhone. And the dodo will have an Apple TV to play with, soon.
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Journalism Grade=F
by wocowboy on Thu 24th Apr 2008 10:20 UTC
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2006-06-01

Apple said nothing, did not mention or give figures for sales of the AppleTV. So instead of just reporting that fact, you stepped across the line from reporting to commentary to infer that this means the AppleTV is doomed, not selling well, and will "soon join the dodo bird". Quite a stretch and completely contrary to Journalism 101. Unfortunately, commentary is about all you get these days in the guise of "news". "OS news" would imply that I would read this site regularly to find out what's going on in the world of OS's. There might be some commentary once in a while, and that's fine, just as long as there is a clear label that those articles are an OPINION, not news.

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RE: Journalism Grade=F
by Jon Dough on Thu 24th Apr 2008 14:54 in reply to "Journalism Grade=F"
Jon Dough Member since:
2005-11-30

Ah, but entertainment and opinion is what passes for journalism these days, at least here in the USA.

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RE: Journalism Grade=F
by hobgoblin on Thu 24th Apr 2008 15:14 in reply to "Journalism Grade=F"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

thats not the only place opinion slips in...

"It makes sense to assume a lot of these are MacBook Airs, confirming my predictions that the MacBook air would sell quite well."

i would be wary of assuming anything at all...

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RE: Journalism Grade=F
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 24th Apr 2008 16:33 in reply to "Journalism Grade=F"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Quite a stretch and completely contrary to Journalism 101.


Quoi?

Editorial opinion / commentary is a tradition as old as journalism itself - if not older.

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RE[2]: Journalism Grade=F
by Jon Dough on Thu 24th Apr 2008 17:28 in reply to "RE: Journalism Grade=F"
Jon Dough Member since:
2005-11-30

Editorial opinion / commentary is a tradition as old as journalism itself - if not older.


The distinction is that editorial/op-ed usually has it's own clearly defined place, and the editorial/op-ed staff is separate and apart from the news reporting staff. That distinction is becoming more and more blurred these days, and it affects the integrity of the news reporting process.

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RE: Journalism Grade=F
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 24th Apr 2008 18:23 in reply to "Journalism Grade=F"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Apple said nothing, did not mention or give figures for sales of the AppleTV. So instead of just reporting that fact, you stepped across the line from reporting to commentary to infer that this means the AppleTV is doomed, not selling well, and will "soon join the dodo bird".


Company 101: if a product is meeting demands, or exceeding demands, we'll know.

It is no mystery the Apple TV has been fledgling and not doing as well as Apple had hoped. They revamped the device majorly not too long ago, and if that had been doing well, they would have let us know during these sales figures. Seeing they don't means the revamp was not (yet) successful at turning the tide.

That's just following logic.

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RE: Journalism Grade=F
by DarthDaver on Fri 25th Apr 2008 00:29 in reply to "Journalism Grade=F"
DarthDaver Member since:
2008-04-25

Amen, brother. It's difficult to say whether he just used an outrageous title to draw hits or really believes such nonsense. It is a little suspect Apple said so little, but the product update (arguably the first real release of the product) has been out less than one full quarter. Two months of sales and a slow delivery of movie titles from the studios will not give a very realistic long-term view. After developing all of these deals and infrastructure, does he think they should pull the plug after two months?

By the way, I love my Apple TV. I had three friends over, and they were all impressed. Two said they would like to get one. The other guy is kind of "thrifty".

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