Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th May 2008 14:49 UTC
Windows We have learnt quite a lot about Windows 7 this week, and one of the things was that Windows 7 would not get a new kernel. The call for a new kernel has been made a few times on the internet, but anyone with a bit more insight into Windows' kernel knows that there is absolutely no need to write a new kernel for Windows - the problems with Windows lie in userland, not kernelland. While the authenticity of the Shipping Seven blog is not undisputed, the blogger makes some very excellent points regarding the kernel matter.
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RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF
by sbergman27 on Fri 30th May 2008 15:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by FunkyELF"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

BSOD? What's that? Never seen one with Vista. In fact, I think I saw one in 5 years of working with dozens of XP systems.

This is as far as I bothered to read your post since you are obviously lying through your teeth. Even if the OS were perfect, hardware issues would have caused more than one if you have really spent "5 years of working with dozens of XP systems".

Learn to construct your untruths more credibly if you want to be believed.

Edited 2008-05-30 16:05 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by joshv on Fri 30th May 2008 16:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

Wow. But sorry, I am telling the truth. I had a Windows 2000 system that BSOD'd a couple times on me, I believe due to hardware issues, though I am not sure, but I am not lying about XP - I remember at most one BSOD with XP, though I might be misremembering that one.

More recently I have a work laptop with XP I used for two years - never BSOD'd. I have a work desktop with XP, 3+ years old, never BSOD'd. I have another work laptop I've been using for 6 months with XP - never BSOD'd. I have a Vista laptop I've been using for 1.5 years, never BSOD'd. I have a Vista desktop I've been using for over a year, never BSOD'd.

But then again I never get infected by viruses or malware, a point which credulous cretins such as yourself also refuse to believe, but I think malware and viruses will significantly increase your chances of BSODing.

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RE[4]: Comment by FunkyELF
by pandronic on Fri 30th May 2008 16:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

It seems that Windows bashing is quite popular here and sadly just for the sake of it.

I, too, haven't had XP BSOD on me, although I take care of about 10-15 systems (those at work, and some of a few friends and family) except a couple of times when dealing with faulty hardware.

To the people that bash Windows: please tell me of an OS as good as Windows, with as many mature applications as Windows (goodbye Linux) and which runs on 300$ hardware (goodbye Mac OS X).

I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm saying it has its merits but you guys fail to see them out of some reason that only you can understand.

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by DrillSgt on Fri 30th May 2008 16:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"This is as far as I bothered to read your post since you are obviously lying through your teeth. Even if the OS were perfect, hardware issues would have caused more than one if you have really spent "5 years of working with dozens of XP systems".

Learn to construct your untruths more credibly if you want to be believed."


Easy champ. I enjoy reading your posts, and agree with a whole lot of them. Does that mean I am lying when I say I have only seen 1 BSOD on Windows XP since the product was released? The machines I maintain, about 200, have never BSOD. The 1 I refer to was when I was experimenting and doing my best to make it blue screen, and was successful. BSOD is not common on Windows XP, though can be done.

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RE[4]: Comment by FunkyELF
by raver31 on Sat 31st May 2008 12:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

So judging byu that last post, you are using TWO accounts on this site ?
is that not against the sites terms and conditions ?

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by Robert Escue on Fri 30th May 2008 16:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
Robert Escue Member since:
2005-07-08

Afraid I am going to have to agree with joshv on the BSOD issue. I use Windows XP, Windows 2000 and 2003 Server at work and XP at home and I cannot remember the last time I saw a BSOD.

Now I have had issues with misbehaving applications (Outlook/Exchange) that would lock up the system, this is further complicated if you use CAC middleware on your machine (DoD). And the result of those problems have required myself and others to perform a "one finger salute", but I think calling joshv a liar is just wrong. If you have some data to backup that joshv is wrong I'd love to see it.

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by tomcat on Fri 30th May 2008 17:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

"BSOD? What's that? Never seen one with Vista. In fact, I think I saw one in 5 years of working with dozens of XP systems.
This is as far as I bothered to read your post since you are obviously lying through your teeth. Even if the OS were perfect, hardware issues would have caused more than one if you have really spent "5 years of working with dozens of XP systems". Learn to construct your untruths more credibly if you want to be believed. "

My God, you're obnoxious.

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RE[4]: Comment by FunkyELF
by sbergman27 on Fri 30th May 2008 17:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

My God, you're obnoxious.

In what way? I said that hardware issues alone would likely be responsible for more than one BSOD for 25 machines in over five years even if the OS were perfect. I seriously doubt his claim on that basis, regardless of the name or quality of the OS. I am, however, making some reasonable assumptions about the quality of the hardware based upon the fact that XP is the OS referenced rather than 2008 Server, RHEL, AIX, or Solaris.

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by nberardi on Fri 30th May 2008 18:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
nberardi Member since:
2005-07-10

"BSOD? What's that? Never seen one with Vista. In fact, I think I saw one in 5 years of working with dozens of XP systems.

This is as far as I bothered to read your post since you are obviously lying through your teeth. Even if the OS were perfect, hardware issues would have caused more than one if you have really spent "5 years of working with dozens of XP systems".

Learn to construct your untruths more credibly if you want to be believed.
"
Now that you mention it I don't think I have seen a BSOD in about that long. Maybe the original author is just working on really crappy hardware.

Edited 2008-05-30 18:43 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by kurenai on Fri 30th May 2008 19:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
kurenai Member since:
2006-01-24

I dunno, I could second that. I've had 3 xp systems in my house since the release of xp, 2 have been perfectly stable with ZERO bsods in 5 years, and 1 has had them weekly. It really comes down to driver support, and if the parent's dozen computers were all of the same model and that model just happened to have a good combination of hardware, no bsods in 5 years is quite doable IME.

The most stable system for me has been my old gateway notebook, the least stable has been my thinkpad t60.

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by cmost on Sat 31st May 2008 00:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
cmost Member since:
2006-07-16

"BSOD? What's that? Never seen one with Vista. In fact, I think I saw one in 5 years of working with dozens of XP systems.

This is as far as I bothered to read your post since you are obviously lying through your teeth. Even if the OS were perfect, hardware issues would have caused more than one if you have really spent "5 years of working with dozens of XP systems".

Learn to construct your untruths more credibly if you want to be believed.
"

How do you know he's lying? What, are you so all-knowing in your arrogance that you presume to read people's minds too? Give me a break! He didn't say what he did with the dozens of XP boxes he's worked with over the past five years so, it is indeed possible he's never seen a BSOD in that time. Grow up!

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