Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Jun 2008 10:20 UTC, submitted by Jarle Anfinsen
Opera Software Opera 9.5 has been released, beating Firefox 3.0 to the punch which is supposed to be released soon as well. The marketing speak: "Opera's cross-device expertise, support for open Web standards and commitment to speed and performance culminate to create the most powerful Opera browser yet. Making its desktop debut in Opera 9.5, Opera Link blurs the boundaries between computers and mobile phones by enabling a seamless Web experience from device to device." Get it from Opera.com.
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opera to firefox
by eydaimon on Thu 12th Jun 2008 15:47 UTC
eydaimon
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2006-03-22

I posted this on the opera news server, but I'll post it here too:

After having used Opera since 1998 it's been with some sorrow and hesitation that I've finally swiched over to use Firefox 3.

Opera has always been the innovative client, and has brought tons of awesome features to the browsing world. Mouse gestured, and tabbed browsing (opera was waaaay ahead with tabbed browsing) was just a few great features I enjoyed.

However, now with the release of Opera 9.50, high-traffic sites such as http://maps.yahoo.com and http://www.hotmail.com and http://reader.google.com still have problems with Opera.

In the past, it's also been Opera's extreme performance advantage over other browsers that's had me coming back as well. With Firefox 3 the speed-gap has finally been closed, and extensions have made it possible to emulate many of Opera's great features. Not as well, and there's still a lot missing. One example is even though there's a plugin for gestures, it doesn't pick up on links that go to the 'next page' that haven't been browsed yet that Opera picks up so nicely on. Small, but built on the continous innovations which again, and again has made opera so great.

Firebug has also been a major reason I've been using Firefox more and more. Opera's Dragonfly looks like a spectacular improvement over the previous developer tools, but I miss things link easily being able to inspect elements on a first glance. Also, the first website I went to play around with it, the right-click context-menu didn't open and work like on all other browsers.

Opera Links is a long welcomed feature. Foxmarks was my first reason to start using FF3 more and more. I'm keep privacy in mind, and had it not let me use my own WebDAV server to store my information, I probably would not have started using it to begin with. That feature is lacking in Opera Links, and i'm forced to store my information on Opera's servers.

This isn't meant to be a negative email saying that I'm leaving Opera forever, because that's not the truth. I will check back with interest with every release hoping the problems I've encountered will have been solved.
-d

... moments later ...

Embarassingly enough, I forgot one more item. I'm not able to close the Panel by clicking the X in the upper right corner making the Panel seem rather permanent on my display. Bug.

-d

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RE: opera to firefox
by rexstuff on Fri 13th Jun 2008 18:53 in reply to "opera to firefox"
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2007-04-06

I, too, was really impressed with the improvements to FF. I started using FF3 (beta 5) when I installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my MacBook Pro. I was sufficiently impressed with how far it had come since FF2 that I eventually switched my Windows desktop over as well. But today, I find that Opera 9.5 is out, and now I'm completely torn.

To address your concerns, I have seen no problems with the websites you have mentioned (aside from Yahoo maps being a low-quality knock-off of Google maps). In fact, it was Opera <9.5's handling of Google's apps that drove me to FF3 in the first place - it seems that a great deal of bugs have been worked out.

Feature-wise, I find the browsers to have about parity. FF has better adblock, but Opera has better tabs. Opera has one of the best IRC clients I've ever used, -built in-. FF has, Opera has, etc etc.

Performance wise, the two seem to handle pages with roughly the same speed. Flash is an issue for both browsers, as I'm on a 64bit linux machine. Their respective viewers both chew up unholy amounts of CPU, sometimes even when 'idle'.

This may have been improved since beta 5, but so far I've found (with my less-than-scientific methodology) that Opera uses almost half as much memory as FF3. That's saying something.

As this matters to some people, I will point out that Opera has made standards compliance a top priority, while the FF devs have shown a great of deal of antipathy towards such tests as Acid. That being said, my current builds of Opera and FF come close on the Acid 3 test, 83 and 71 percent, respectively.

To me it seems that the browsers are really comparable, and it comes down to preferences. What is more important, a quality Adblock (which is apparently ruining the internet anyway) or a smaller memory footprint (which matters little when machines have excess of 4GB these days)?

As for myself, I am completely stumped. I have no idea which browser I am going to be using from here on. They're both so great!

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