Linked by Adam S on Sun 15th Jun 2008 21:59 UTC
General Development RoughlyDrafted Magazine has posted an in-depth article that examines Sproutcore, an Apple-backed Javascript framework that approximates Cocoa on the web. The article examines why using HTML, Javascript, and CSS just may win the battle with Flash, Silverlight, and Java for rich internet application deployment. Sproutcore enables web developers to create full-featured cross-browser web apps an in a Model, View, Controller convention, much like Rails. The Sproutcore site has some great tutorials that show off the framework.
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The killer app
by chrono13 on Mon 16th Jun 2008 00:39 UTC
chrono13
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2006-10-25

The killer app is ubiquitous video playback.
Can this solution meet the following?
1. Play video in browser
2. Stream said video
3. At reasonable compression
4. Be ubiquitous (not require installing Yet Another Codec)*.

And somewhat less important, as it does not pertain specifically to video playback, is number 5) be interactive (games).

*I understand that Flash requires an install, but it is often pre-installed via OEM.

Silverlight and Flash are able to do all of this. Any serious competitor will have to be able to do this, and offer as-good-as development/video tools to be even remotely competitive in the Flash-dominated web.

Silverlight will make huge inroads on Flash simply because Microsoft.com (and thus by default IE) is bugging everyone to install it. See again point 4.

Edited 2008-06-16 00:42 UTC

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RE: The killer app
by Kroc on Mon 16th Jun 2008 11:22 in reply to "The killer app"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

And I would add to that list: DRM.
If video can't be streamed without suitable protection, the paranoid providers will simply stick to Flash and Silverlight (Here's looking at you BBC, ITV)

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RE: The killer app
by aliquis on Mon 16th Jun 2008 13:09 in reply to "The killer app"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

There already exist a standard for video on the browser, and Safari already supports it. So nothing more needed.


Anyway, I'm all for anything which can get us away from the crap flash is. I haven't tried Silverlight but it's probably much more heavy on system resources than a webpage with javascript anyway.

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RE: The killer app
by chrish on Mon 16th Jun 2008 14:26 in reply to "The killer app"
chrish Member since:
2005-07-14

I'm a little concerned about how Silverlight's major version keeps going up without any significant adoption by anyone other than microsoft.com. Major versions = incompatible changes, and nobody's even using it yet...

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RE: The killer app
by Wes Felter on Mon 16th Jun 2008 18:48 in reply to "The killer app"
Wes Felter Member since:
2005-11-15

I think you're taking Web video mania a little too far; there are plenty of Web 2.0 apps that don't use video (ahem, MobileMe).

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