Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Mon 4th Aug 2008 14:35 UTC, submitted by Hakime
Graphics, User Interfaces "The best open source applications and operating systems are more usable now than they were then. But this is largely from slow incremental improvements, and low-level competition between projects and distributors. Major problems with the design process itself remain largely unfixed." Personal Note: I am not sure how many people feel that Free Software has poor usability. As far as the desktop environment, I find most of linux window managers to be the more user-friendly than Windows and OS X.
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RE[2]: Agreed in part
by protomank on Mon 4th Aug 2008 18:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Agreed in part"
protomank
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2006-08-03

Yes, windows has differences, but for the sake of everybody sanity - the differences are FAR less than KDE and gnome. Just because windows does it wrong, we all should be happy with it??

As I've said before, the solution is actually simple: let the DE deal with it. There is even a working solution for KDE using open dialog in gtk/gnome files, so no need for a dictator.

Edited 2008-08-04 18:25 UTC

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RE[3]: Agreed in part
by Laurence on Mon 4th Aug 2008 19:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Agreed in part"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Yes, windows has differences, but for the sake of everybody sanity - the differences are FAR less than KDE and gnome. Just because windows does it wrong, we all should be happy with it??


Nobody said we should be happy with it - I was just making a point that the same problem exists in Windows and people, for the most part, manage fine.


As I've said before, the solution is actually simple: let the DE deal with it.


That's easier said than done when you have renegade developers on your hands.

To use windows as a base of reference again: if the open/save dialogs differ from Microsoft application's when they should be setting the bench mark, then what makes you think every other developer of every other OS (both FOSS and propriatory) are going to stick to their DE toolkits?

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RE[3]: Agreed in part
by KugelKurt on Mon 4th Aug 2008 23:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Agreed in part"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, windows has differences, but for the sake of everybody sanity - the differences are FAR less than KDE and gnome.

Please? At least across KDE and GNOME you can be sure that the menu bar is above the tool bar.
There's a GTK theming engine to make GTK/GNOME apps look like KDE apps and the other way around is possible as well.
On Windows I just have to look at IE7, Office 2007, Windows Media Player 11, and to see bigger differences across applications from one developer on a single platform than the differences between the KDE and GNOME HIGs.

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