Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Oct 2008 15:57 UTC
Windows There is one thing that really pushes my buttons, one thing that is sure to send me off on a rant on life, the universe, and everything. I have a 21" widescreen 1680x1050 display - which might not be large to some of the real geeks in here, but to me, it's pretty huge. With so much screen real estate, why oh why do my friends all still insist on maximising every window they come across when they sit down behind my computer? This - and more - is the subject of the latest post on Microsoft's Engineering 7 weblog.
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Screen space...
by bert64 on Sun 5th Oct 2008 17:31 UTC
bert64
Member since:
2007-04-23

Maximizing everything has a lot to do with how windows is designed... The window management is very poor, and most apps are seemingly designed to be full screen while being used as a result...

By contrast, many unix and mac apps are designed to run alongside other apps on the same screen... The windows photoshop has all its toolbars inside a large window, on the mac the toolbars float as separate windows above your background or other apps, even the msoffice apps work this way on mac too.

The presence of multiple workspaces on unix, and since leopard, mac too also helps, you can lay the applications out how you want in each workspace and flip between your sets of applications at will, very convenient and i couldn't use a system which lacked workspaces. windows ofcourse, still lacks this basic feature by default.

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RE: Screen space...
by siride on Mon 6th Oct 2008 00:49 in reply to "Screen space..."
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

I find that kind of window management borderline unusable. I don't want to see a bunch of unrelated or semi-related windows visible on my screen at once. It's confusing and difficult to manage, no matter how fancy your window manager is. There's nothing wrong with maximizing windows and focussing on one task at a time. In fact, mentally speaking, this is a *good* thing.

I've been trying to live with Mac OS X's style of window management for 6-8 months now and I still hate it. I gave it an honest shot, but it just doesn't fit my mental picture.

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RE[2]: Screen space...
by telemachus81 on Mon 6th Oct 2008 09:29 in reply to "RE: Screen space..."
telemachus81 Member since:
2008-10-06

Last time I used them, the OS X toolbox windows disappeared when switching to another application, and reappeared when switching back; so there wasn't really any extra clutter from other applications when you switch to something else.

The thing I don't really like about Windows' style of window management is that, as the g/p post stated, it seems to have encouraged a lot of MDI applications, which really reduces the usefulness of multiple monitors.

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RE: Screen space...
by stooovie on Fri 10th Oct 2008 10:37 in reply to "Screen space..."
stooovie Member since:
2006-01-25

This is perfect example of different usage patterns of users... I for one absolutely HATE that on OSX, earlier Photoshop versions and other apps cannot take over the whole screen. I don't want to see my wallpaper and icon clutter when I work in Photoshop. I want to focus on my single task. That's why Apple Pro Apps (FCP, Motion...) and even Photoshop now include a mode which obscure the desktop much in a way Windows does. Mac OS mode introduces unwanted visual noise and can in fact shorten attention span - you just check everything all the time, because you can see everything all the time...

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