Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Oct 2008 18:35 UTC
Apple During a special press event at Apple's campus in Cupertino, the company refreshed its entire notebook line - the MacBook Pro, the Air, and the ordinary MacBook. In addition, the company also launched a new Cinema Display. The rumours on the 'net were more or less spot on, so there will be little news for those that keep up with that kind of stuff. Read on for a breakdown.
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Macbook
by evangs on Tue 14th Oct 2008 19:07 UTC
evangs
Member since:
2005-07-07

The new Macbooks are pure awesome sauce. A decent graphics chip and backlit keyboard for $1599. What's not to like?

Can anyone suggest how I'd float the idea of buying one past my wife?

RE: Macbook
by poundsmack on Tue 14th Oct 2008 19:38 in reply to "Macbook"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

like this:

"honey I got you a present, go ahead open it. Its a new Mac laptop. What do you mean you don't know how to use OSX? oh i'm so sorry, i forgot you have a windows machine. Well I don't think i can return it, why dont we keep it and i can teach you how to use it every now and then. ok good, let me know when you want me to show you how it works... *darts off quickly with the laptop before wife has a chance to answer*

(this trick borrowed from a simposons episode where Homer buys himself a bowling ball with his name on it and tries to pass it off as a gift to Marge and keep it).

now as we all know a successfull relationship is built on honesty and trust (haha) but a more manipulative and slightly deciptive relationship gets you the mac laptop faster. personaly i think the trade off is worth it, these are awsome

Edited 2008-10-14 19:40 UTC

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RE[2]: Macbook
by bornagainenguin on Tue 14th Oct 2008 19:45 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

poundsmack suggested...

like this:

"honey I got you a present, go ahead open it. Its a new Mac laptop. What do you mean you don't know how to use OSX? oh i'm so sorry, i forgot you have a windows machine. Well I don't think i can return it, why dont we keep it and i can teach you how to use it every now and then. ok good, let me know when you want me to show you how it works... *darts off quickly with the laptop before wife has a chance to answer*

(this trick borrowed from a simposons episode where Homer buys himself a bowling ball with his name on it and tries to pass it off as a gift to Marge and keep it).

now as we all know a successfull relationship is built on honesty and trust (haha) but a more manipulative and slightly deciptive relationship gets you the mac laptop faster. personaly i think the trade off is worth it, these are awsome


Noooo! Don't you remember the way that episode went? If you do that your wife will just end up taking the MacBook to a Apple store and run off Justin Long! THERE IS NO WAY THIS COULD BE A GOOD THING!

...might be epic though. Be sure to post pics if and when it happens, 'k?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[2]: Macbook
by evangs on Wed 15th Oct 2008 05:55 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

+1.

I'll try that. ;)

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RE: Macbook
by umccullough on Tue 14th Oct 2008 19:52 in reply to "Macbook"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

A decent graphics chip and backlit keyboard for $1599. What's not to like?


Well, to start with, the price...

I know, troll, sorry.

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RE[2]: Macbook
by sultanqasim on Wed 15th Oct 2008 00:17 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
sultanqasim Member since:
2006-10-28

I'd have to agree. I just compared an identically specced MBP to a Dell XPS and the dell was $900 (CAD) cheaper. I still want a new MacBook to replace my trusty old iBook but I might save up and wait for the next revision.

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RE[2]: Macbook
by evangs on Wed 15th Oct 2008 05:56 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

What material is your XPS made from? How does that compare to the Macbook?

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RE: Macbook
by Buck on Tue 14th Oct 2008 20:04 in reply to "Macbook"
Buck Member since:
2005-06-29

What's not to like? The lack of firewire for one. No target mode, no support for firewire camcorders, no support for audio interfaces. Also no express card slot to make up for the lost functionality.
Price is yet another point. They could've captured a lot of marketshare by pricing it lower, yet they insist on lowering the profit margins. That's no good news. They seem to no longer target the semi-pro crowd with that, but the general public would care less and instead opt for an alternative that is much cheaper.

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RE[2]: Macbook
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 14th Oct 2008 20:14 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Someone please tell me that Apple wasn't actually dumb enough to remove Firewire support from the plain 'ol Macbook. I hope it's the MB Air you're referring to - I know several people who purchased MacBooks, solely because they're a convenient way to import/edit video.

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RE[2]: Macbook
by mabhatter on Tue 14th Oct 2008 23:30 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
mabhatter Member since:
2005-07-17

I can finally stop ranting about the poor graphic performance... only to have another thing to knock it down. I think the number of people not able to use cameras or dabble in music, video, or podcast production really kills the point of getting the Apple machines. These new frames are probably absurdly expensive to manufacture... 2.5 lb. blocks of aircraft grade aluminum are not cheap, it's probably killing their margin. The nvidia chipset would not have included firewire and that would have been extra cost to add it back in on top of the extra cost of having a GPU now. Apple could have made up the price difference using slower processors and let performance be the key. That said Apple computers without firewire or expansion to add it is a big problem. They just kicked out a large group of customers from buying the cool Apple toys at the store. I suppose that's why they left the $999 vanilla macbook, to clear out inventory and to provide the firewire for those that need it.

I'd agree the lack of firewire is a face-smack to those building up a collection of mac-happy devices. The cheapest Macbook Pro is simply way too much money to justify unless you need the machine for work.

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by cg0def on Thu 16th Oct 2008 14:47 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
cg0def Member since:
2006-02-12

what exactly gave you the impression that Apple cares about capturing a bigger market share? Plus the increase in price and the feature reduction is due to the increase of manufacturing cost. A solid piece of aluminum and new manufacturing technology = high production costs. Ever wonder why no other company does that? But not to worry in about a year the price will be back to normal and I am guessing most of the features will be back with their latest revisions. Anyway Steve definitely lost my money this time around. Oh and the MBP DOES NOT have sli by default. Not to mention that it's a pain switching between cards...

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RE: Macbook
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 14th Oct 2008 20:09 in reply to "Macbook"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

The new Macbooks are pure awesome sauce. A decent graphics chip and backlit keyboard for $1599. What's not to like?


I have to agree. I've been a long-time Thinkpad fan (primarily the x* series) - and while I still prefer them for my own use, the Macbook is the laptop I generally recommend to customers, co-workers, friends, etc.

As laptops go, the Macbook is the "just right" (to quote Goldilocks) for most people.

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RE: Macbook
by thjayo on Tue 14th Oct 2008 20:20 in reply to "Macbook"
thjayo Member since:
2005-11-11

Actually, I didn't like'em so much. I prefer the looks of the actual MacBook line. So I guess I'll be running to a store soon so I can get a current generation MacBook before it goes away.

EDIT: And I just found out that the new MBs lack FireWire. ;)

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RE: Macbook
by Liquidator on Wed 15th Oct 2008 06:40 in reply to "Macbook"
Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

Introducing the Apple iProduct...
http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif

On a serious note now, I wish Apple offered a black MacBookPro. When I see these white/silver keys and actually most of the case is silver, I can imagine how quickly it gets dirty. A 2-year old yellow Mac doesn't cut the mustard...

And a glossy black MacBookPro would be gorgeous.

:)

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RE[2]: Macbook
by Glynser on Wed 15th Oct 2008 07:03 in reply to "RE: Macbook"
Glynser Member since:
2007-11-29

You fear that the silver one gets dirty quickly, but you'd wish for a glossy black one? I don't think there would be a big difference...

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RE: Macbook
by bryanv on Wed 15th Oct 2008 14:56 in reply to "Macbook"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

I bribed her to let me get an iMac about two months ago.

Here's how I did it:
"I'll sell every PC in the house (save the two servers in the closet) except the iBook. I'll sell all the parts I won't need any more. I'll clean out everything and throw old stuff that I can't use and can't sell out. And I'll get the nursery painted by the end of October."

That -almost- worked. But she wanted more. If I can go out and drop a thousand bucks on something that I arguably need, she wanted the right to do the same -- on a dresser (that can double as a changing table) for the nursery (baby due in December). I know she'll want the well-built dresser that costs $600+.

Since I've done a bit of woodworking the last few years, and I feel comfortable making a dresser, I pledged to build a dresser by the end of Nov. If I fail to, she gets to go buy whatever the hell she wants. Which means we'll have a $1200 dresser for a baby's room. Oh God.

But that was what it took. So I agreed.

Well, it's half-way through October, and I don't have the nursery painted. I'm still in the process of cleaning out all the 'stuff' from that room that once was my office. The next two weeks are going to be 'fire-sale on craigslist' time.

The next hardware refresh in our house will bring in a new laptop. Down the line, I'd like to replace the two 2U rackmount dual P3 servers with some smaller nano-based boxes and a disk array.

I'd like to cut the electricity bill.

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