Linked by Rahul on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 14:25 UTC
Linux ServerWatch writes about the slow but sure death of UNIX by the onslaught of Linux and customers moving from older proprietary UNIX systems to commercially supported open source enterprise Linux distributions. "Linux does have one killer feature that is driving the switch: lower cost. Many companies are discovering Linux to be extremely attractive from a cost perspective. Take the experience of Sabre, a travel company that replaced Solaris with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) running on x86 machines, resulting in lowering costs 90 percent (with a three-fold speed gain to boot). These potential cost savings, which include hardware maintenance costs savings, are not to sniffed at."
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"Next" victim?
by rockwell on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 16:01 UTC
rockwell
Member since:
2005-09-13

Who was the "first" victim of Linux? Other than the idiots at SCO, I can't recall any OS that has been run out of business because Linux is here ... certainly not Windows or OS X ....

Edited 2008-10-23 16:01 UTC

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RE: "Next" victim?
by DittoBox on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 16:07 in reply to ""Next" victim?"
DittoBox Member since:
2005-07-08

Well I believe there's something of a misconception among people that HP/UX, Solaris (to a degree), IRIX and AIX are all for the most part dead. Obviously Solaris isn't, and HP/UX and AIX are still put to use in a few big iron environments and still have some market share. GNU/Linux has displaced UNIX in many high-volume uses but it certainly isn't dead.

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RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by cg0def on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 16:18 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
cg0def Member since:
2006-02-12

Irix IS dead and has been for quite some time. Only its death has nothing to do with Linux. Sure a lot of Irix users moved over to linux but so what. The facts are that OS X adoption numbers have never been this high and linux got nothing on it ... now go explain that fact!

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RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by lord-storm on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 20:16 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
lord-storm Member since:
2005-07-12

Indeed UNIX is not dead we even see file servers that were previously Linux moved over to solaris 10. Sure support for Solaris is more expensive than most Linux Free forms etc but you can get support for any platform for free or close to it if you know where to look.

Unix add's value where linux distros normaly cant afford to Big Iron why? They don't make the hardware... Linux still has people complaining about NV still not open sourcing their IP Rights. Traditional closed source don't care what is contained in those drivers as long as they have good performance which is also the aim of the manufacturer.

I must admit that AIX is heading for a path that SGI know well.... It needs a community and thats being stolen by the other OS's

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RE: "Next" victim?
by diegocg on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 16:07 in reply to ""Next" victim?"
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

SGI (almost dead). Oh, and while Sun is far from dead, it didn't opensource solaris just for fun....

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RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by segedunum on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 17:18 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh, and while Sun is far from dead, it didn't opensource solaris just for fun....

No, but it did open source Solaris to be just like Linux ;-).

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RE: "Next" victim?
by sbergman27 on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 16:41 in reply to ""Next" victim?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Who was the "first" victim of Linux? Other than the idiots at SCO, I can't recall any OS that has been run out of business because Linux is here ... certainly not Windows or OS X ....

I do not mean to be critical, but this needs to be said. The management behind the original SCO became Tarantella. SCO was a damned good Unix. Absolutely tops on x86 at the time. The CEO made a nasty public swipe at Linux, back in the day. But to his credit, he quickly learned from it and apologized. They decided that their Unix days were numbered and went into a sort of virtualization effort. Caldera, a Linux company for whom I used to have some respect, but associated with the very shady "Canopy Group" purchased the OS division of SCO, hired a new upper management staff, and the rest, as they say, is history. We should not tarnish the name of SCO. We should tarnish names like Darl McBride, Chris Sontag, and Canopy Group. Canopy Group was pulling the strings. And Darl was their front-man. And a very willing one in my view.

SGI is doing some really impressive work, with Linux, on SSI supercomputing systems. Sun is adapting Solaris to this new day and age.

Yeah, I'm a Linux fan. But, honestly, I'm a Unix fan first. Linux and the *BSDs have been the unifying forces that Unix has needed for so very long. It pains me when we still fight amongst ourselves, now that we have a chance to do something wonderful... again.

Edited 2008-10-23 17:00 UTC

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RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by google_ninja on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 19:10 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

+1

I don't even think Darl was pure evil. When he first became CEO the stuff he was saying is what you would want to hear from the CEO of a major Linux company in this day and age.

One of the things I like about your posts is that you are a linux fan that actually knows some history. It is interesting to see how a company could start with so much street cred, and end as one of the Great Satans. Or how a bunch of evil bastards like IBM could completely turn around their image with unix geeks the way they have.

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RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by PlatformAgnostic on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 22:40 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
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2006-01-02

Incidentally, the old SCO Unix was actually derived from Microsoft's Xenix Codebase. Just thought I'd throw that in there :-).

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v Raymond Noorda
by Moulinneuf on Fri 24th Oct 2008 01:30 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
RE[2]: "Next" victim?
by makkus on Sat 25th Oct 2008 05:58 in reply to "RE: "Next" victim?"
makkus Member since:
2006-01-11

SCO was a good UNIX in a time where serial terminals ruled. A i386 SCO server with a bunch digiboard serial connectors could serve a company of around 256 people.

But like Microsoft they were overrun by the internet and missed the boat. Unlike Microsoft they hadn't the money and power to catch on. From mid-nineties on, SCO was a farce.

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