Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Oct 2008 15:28 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Bang on target, the new version of Ubuntu Linux is available for our downloading pleasure. Amongst various changes it sports updates to the installer, improved networking, and a new 'Mobile USB' version geared towards the blossoming netbook market. Grab a copy from the Ubuntu website, and check out Linux Format's hands-on look. Or the one at Simple Thoughts. Or the one at PolishLinux. And probably a few other websites as well.
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Defecting...
by apoclypse on Thu 30th Oct 2008 19:46 UTC
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2007-02-17

I have to say I'm trying really hard to not defect to Fedora 10. Its looking really good so far. All the things that Ubuntu has had in its specs for about 4 releases Fedora actually followed through on. Ubuntu had a spec for seamless bootup and didn't do squat in this area for 3 releases. I love Ubuntu, I wouldn't trade apt-get for yum for the world but I like the fact the Fedora project actually follows through with their promises. Their artwork is incredible, there is so much polish graphically in Fedora, be it fade transitions when you change your wallpaper to fade transitions when you log in. What the hell is Ubuntu waiting for (for RedHat to hand the code over to them on a silver platter)?

I'm such a huge Ubuntu fan, but my enthusiasm is waning. Each release is starting to look like empty promises to me. Where is this new theme that they were making such a big deal about? Other than a couple of details here and there its the exact same theme they have been using since before Feisty.

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RE: Defecting... in reverse
by buff on Thu 30th Oct 2008 20:52 in reply to "Defecting..."
buff Member since:
2005-11-12

I have to say I'm trying really hard to not defect to Fedora 10. Its looking really good so far

That is funny. I defected from Fedora 9 to Ubuntu 8.04 and now 8.10. I found Ubuntu did a better job integrating Pulseaudio. On Ubunutu it just worked for me. I began to dislike the perpetual beta feel to Fedora. It was a little too bleeding edge for me. I also am appreciating the robustness of apt-get. Yum is pretty good but ever try and cancel it mid-stream? You can usually cancel apt-get and start where you left off. If yum dies you have to remove the yum lock, restart yum, etc. (ugly) You could also install apt-get on Fedora.

Edited 2008-10-30 20:54 UTC

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RE[2]: Defecting... in reverse
by Rahul on Thu 30th Oct 2008 21:50 in reply to "RE: Defecting... in reverse"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Fedora developers wrote much of PulseAudio and continue to maintain it. The only reason other distros that adopt technologies developed and integrated by Fedora first might feel better is because, including these innovative changes ahead of the pack means taking some risks and sometimes the results can be less than perfect for sometime till the pain points are sorted out.

NetworkManager 0.7, again being developed and integrated first within Fedora is now followed on by other distributions such as Ubuntu and OpenSUSE. Similar story with the Fedora's cross platform liveusb-creator or system-config-printer that is being included in Ubuntu and Mandriva.

You will see this happen again with Packagekit in the upcoming releases as well. Those are just a few examples. There is lots more in

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview

Distributions that take a more conservative path should really be happy that someone else is trail brazing for their benefit instead of complaining because if everybody waits for somebody else to do the hard work, the pace of innovation will fall down in the world of free and open source software quite drastically.

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