Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Mar 2009 13:51 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Privacy, Security, Encryption Fresh from winning the PWN2OWN contest yesterday, Charlie Miller has been interviewed by ZDNet. He talks about how Mac OS X is a very simple operating system to exploit due to the lack of any form of anti-exploit features. He also explains that the underlying operating system is much more important in creating a successful exploit than the bowser, why Chrome is so hard to hack, and many other things.
Thread beginning with comment 354115
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
Let's keep moving
by nathbeadle on Fri 20th Mar 2009 14:10 UTC
nathbeadle
Member since:
2006-08-08

I hope a few people at Apple read the interview and continue the work on Mac OS X by implementing some of these missing features that run behind the scenes. There's no point NOT to implement them, getting them incorporated into the system early and having even more new features and security to boast about.

This interview is almost like free advice for them... I hope they take it. I'm almost purely a Mac user (save for a linux box or two) and I'd love to know that Apple was moving on these things!!

Reply Score: 2

RE: Let's keep moving
by TBPrince on Fri 20th Mar 2009 17:52 in reply to "Let's keep moving"
TBPrince Member since:
2005-07-06

Well said.

Reply Parent Score: 2

jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Absolutely. I'd love to know that Apple was taking security and quality more seriously rather than just the pretty packaging and "think different" marketing spin. I'm all for anything that benefits the end user and improved quality defiantly does that. Heck, I have two osX boxes at home with one in daily use; I'd like those to be a little more robust and it's not like I have more freedom then what Apple Updates delivers.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE: Let's keep moving
by mrs1622 on Sat 21st Mar 2009 15:17 in reply to "Let's keep moving"
mrs1622 Member since:
2009-03-21

It's wrong to suggest that Apple is somehow ignoring the evolving security climate. Known exploits are regularly patched and the underlying OS keeps getting new security enhancements like •File Quarantine •Sandbox •Package and Code Signing •Application Firewall •Non-Executable (NX) Data •Address Space Randomization

For more info, see Jordan Hubbard's talk on the evolution of OS X at http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa08/tech/hubbard_talk.pdf

OS X doesn't have to be the most secure OS. It just has to be secure enough to keep criminal attention focused on Windows. Just remember that security and usability are often mutually exclusive, so all vendors are forced to balance the need to not inconvenience users with the need to be secure. If that were not the case we'd all be using PGP-enabled mail clients, every web stream would be SSL encrypted, we'd all be using multi-factor authentication, all our hard drives would have full-disk encryption, etc. etc.

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[2]: Let's keep moving
by nathbeadle on Sat 21st Mar 2009 15:55 in reply to "RE: Let's keep moving"
nathbeadle Member since:
2006-08-08

I'm not at all saying Apple is ignoring security. I feel happy with Mac OS X very much.

What I am saying is that companies for the most part tend to see these things as bad press (and for a legit reason as that is what everyone spins it as).

All I'm hoping is for Apple to take this and say "Hey, let's keep moving on security and fix these things up". The last thing I'd want to happen is have Apple come out and downplay something that is now in the open.

Companies tend to clam up when these things happen and I'd love to see them acknowledge these and get them plugged... to keep moving forward!

Reply Parent Score: 1