Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Apr 2009 20:18 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
KDE We're really in a KDE/GNOME mood today, it would seem. The KDE team has released the second maintenance release for the KDE 4.2 series, KDE 4.2.2. The three biggest improvements in this release are stability fixes in KRunner, performance enhancements in KMail, and bugfixes, performance improvements and optimization in KHTML. As always, this release will find it way to your distributor of choice soon enough, but if you're impatient, you can always build it yourself.
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RE[2]: Won't even try...
by kensai on Thu 2nd Apr 2009 22:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Won't even try..."
kensai
Member since:
2005-12-27

In fact, we at Arch Linux had kde 4.2.2 in the official repositories for a few days now. Developers get the tarballs for the release before release time.

I can't understand what are all the people crazy about, KDE4 is a complete rewrite of KDE, and sure it had to be alpha (4.0) and beta (4.1) quality because people have to use it and report bugs. Now KDE is at what I would like to call release candidate state (4.2), this release is the best so far and the one that made me switch from GNOME, and I have been a GNOME user for more than 5 years. I know it still has some annoyances, but they are too little now for me to say KDE4 is a disaster. Seeing how all is been going, 4.3 in fact will be the final KDE4 talking about stability. Still KDE4 will still be on development, so from this point on everything will become more stable and polished.

Some of the people who say KDE released alpha or beta quality are suing windows, what does it take for windows to get to a final state? sp1 sp2 sp3? Windows XP was not half as good as it became with sp2, and Vista isn't even good and it is close to be replaced by Windows 7.

Sometimes developer have to make progress happen, even if that means breaking some things. Come to think of it, no one forced you to switch from kde3 there are lots of distributions that still use kde3 and kde 3.5.10 came out after kde4 was released, so that tells you, if you don't want to test kde4 stay with kde3.

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RE[3]: Won't even try...
by Gullible Jones on Sat 4th Apr 2009 06:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Won't even try..."
Gullible Jones Member since:
2006-05-23

What gets to me about KDE4 is how incredibly *slow* it is. My laptop has 1.5 GB of RAM, and Slackware with KDE4 (with all desktop effects turned off!) absolutely crawls. CPU usage especially seems heavy, with CPU spikes causing my mouse cursor to freeze when applications launch.

(Not just a Slackware problem either, it happens on all the distros I've tried that use KDE4.)

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RE[4]: Won't even try...
by setec_astronomy on Sat 4th Apr 2009 08:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Won't even try..."
setec_astronomy Member since:
2007-11-17

The next two sentences will probably make me look like a total bastard that likes to sidestep problems and is not sympathetic to the needs of other users.

It is probably a hardware problem, most likely something to do with your video card. I have Arch Linux KDE 4.2 running on nearly seven year old hardware (Celeron 2GHz, old NVIDIA GForce4 440MX, although the RAM was upgraded to 1GB of RAM some years ago) quite fine.

The painting performance of X11 with the NVIDIA legacy drivers for this rather dated card is not something to brag about, but acceptable. On my 1GB Asus Eee 1000H and my Thinkpad (both Intel video chips) KDE4 is very snappy, altough the known repainting issues (esp. the systemtray) with recent intel drivers can get quite anoying.

Starting with Qt 4.5, users with "problematic" graphic chips can use the raster backend which judging from non-scientific, personal tests at least feels a little better but sidesteps the problem (here, he is doing it again) of the lacking graphics stack on *nix by burdening the CPU with additional workload (which may not even be acceptable on mobile devices due to power concerns).

http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/10/22/so-long-and-thanks-for-t...

http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/03/13/using-hardware-accelerat...

Another disadvantage of this backend is that Zack Rusin (quite understandably) feels the urge to drop on any (likely non-graphic expert) user who tries to portait raster as a solution to all graphic related performance problems with flawed benchmarking like the proverbial ton of brick :-).

I know this will again sound rather tired, but: Have you tried filing bug reports with your distrobution and/or KDE and X11? Because, believe it or not, some folks out there get quite good performance with KDE4 so apparently something *is* working properly for a growing group of users.

best regards & Good luck :-)

Edited 2009-04-04 08:48 UTC

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