Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 31st May 2009 10:44 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Back when the whole netbook thing started, Asus was king of the hill with a focus on netbooks with Linux pre-installed. Since they were kind of popular, it didn't take Microsoft long to start working together with Asus to 'port' Windows XP to the Asus line of netbooks, and with that, to other netbooks as well. The result was that Linux netbooks are now harder to find for many people. While Dell committed itself to Linux on netbooks, Asus has decided to just skip the first date and jump right into bed with Microsoft.
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RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sun 31st May 2009 16:49 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

I haven't gotten a single Windows-virus either in ages. Keeping updates installed and using anything but IE is more or less enough. Oh, and yes, avoid pirated software or atleast read the associated comments if the installation actually has any viruses in it or not..


Reminds me of the 'oh nooos!!111oneoneone lulz' posts claiming that Mac OS X is a security nightmare after some people got a worm/trojan - interesting that they ignore the fact that this trojan was spread through pirated software. I avoid pirated software altogether - the price paid isn't worth the risk of it being hacked up and possibly having identity theft as a result.

I have two times had the update crash my Windows and had to reboot, but other than that it's been painless. Not even nearly as bad as people want to make it out to be.


Problems that have occurred for me, 9/10 relate to third parties - lesson to learn, never use software from that third party; the reason why no Symantec or Network Associates/McAfee touches my computer.

Use something else than that crappy Ubuntu ;) I still recommend Mandriva, haven't had any issues whatsoever with it so far ;)


Ewww, having used Mandrake in the past - that has put me off their software for ever. I tend to give something ago a couple of times before I kibosh their products entirely. Mandriva/Mandrake have crossed that line. I am interested in Fedora but I have my doubts it'll be much better given that it'll have pretty bad battery life as I experienced in the past when running Linux on a netbook. Maybe once they've fully yanked out HAL and replaced it with DeviceKit along with improving the efficiency of the other subsystems I will be interested in giving it a try again.

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RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai
by Rahul on Sun 31st May 2009 17:18 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

DeviceKit development is being led by Fedora currently. HAL related power management issues have been fixed in the latest releases for a while anyway.

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RE[8]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sun 31st May 2009 17:36 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

DeviceKit development is being led by Fedora currently. HAL related power management issues have been fixed in the latest releases for a while anyway.


The HAL issues still remain because the way it detects hardware is based on a polling mechanism which is hugely inefficient. The only way to fix it is a complete redesign and implementation - which DeviceKit is doing.

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RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai
by Lousewort on Sun 31st May 2009 17:56 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai"
Lousewort Member since:
2006-09-12

Lets talk of motivation...

What motivates ASUS to commit completely to Linux, if there is even a small chance that it may someday be converted from GPLv2 to the much more restrictive GPLv3? FOSS has cut their own throats. Thanks, Stallman.

What motivates a dev to fix a bug if the patch is met with the sort of uphill we see from the likes of the inestimable Ulrich Drepper (in my opinion an unmitigated ass) with the most recent GCC bug?
see: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5070#c5

What motivates the man in the street to buy a linux based system rather than a Windows version, backed by the most successful development firm on the planet?

Stallman reminds me of that famous cheat found in many games: AllYourBaseAreBelongToI. Basically, he started out well, and no one questions the incredible value his GNU software gifted to the world. But does anyone seriously think he coded it all himself??? Regardless, he lays claim to it! His rants do more to destroy the credibility of Linux than any other single factor!

Others, like Eric Raymond and Theodore Tso are true heroes, often unsung, and humble as heroes often are.

Nevertheless, the dream is gone. Linux will never be "ready for the desktop" as long as the agenda is dictated by Redhat employees like Mr. Drepper, large organisations such as IBM, Novell & SUN (now Oracle). How long do you think projects like MySQL will last when owned by Oracle? Do you really think OpenOffice has a future, now that Oracle calls the shots?

What does that leave us with? Firefox? Gnome? KDE? Where is Moonlight & Mono taking us with the patent issues surrounding C#?

Nope, even the core GCC library is a moving target. No-one is able to agree to anything much anymore, and the prime motivations for changing the status quo are steadily disappearing. Who made people like Ulrich Drepper, Miguel de Icaza and Stallman akin to God????

How did those large companies get to lay claim to so much open source developed code?

Who really cares?

Edited 2009-05-31 17:58 UTC

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