Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:25 UTC
Debian and its clones Well, this is interesting. We already have a Mono item ruffling some feathers on OSNews today, but here we have the apparent news that Tomboy has become a default part of GNOME on Squeeze, the next release of Debian. Wait, what now? Update: I've updated the article with Fedora's position in all this. Read on! Update II: Josselin Mouette replies.
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Why not?
by theuserbl on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:39 UTC
theuserbl
Member since:
2006-01-10

Why not have Mono per default installing on Debian?
Mono is OpenSource and so I don't see any problem.

What warries me a lot more is, that gnuplot is in the Debian main-tree.
And gnuplot http://www.gnuplot.info/ is neither GNU nor OpenSource:

Look at
http://gnuplot.cvs.sourceforge.net/gnuplot/gnuplot/Copyright?view=m...

Permission to modify the software is granted, but not the right to distribute the complete modified source code. Modifications are to be distributed as patches to the released version.

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RE: Why not?
by KAMiKAZOW on Fri 12th Jun 2009 20:00 in reply to "Why not?"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

Why not have Mono per default installing on Debian?
Mono is OpenSource and so I don't see any problem.

Did you even read the article? Mono does not work on all platforms supported by Debian

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RE: Why not?
by Sabz on Sat 13th Jun 2009 01:31 in reply to "Why not?"
Sabz Member since:
2005-07-07

Why not have Mono per default installing on Debian?
Mono is OpenSource and so I don't see any problem.

What warries me a lot more is, that gnuplot is in the Debian main-tree.
And gnuplot http://www.gnuplot.info/ is neither GNU nor OpenSource:

Look at
http://gnuplot.cvs.sourceforge.net/gnuplot/gnuplot/Copyright?view=m...

Permission to modify the software is granted, but not the right to distribute the complete modified source code. Modifications are to be distributed as patches to the released version.

you dont see any problem with Mono? read this http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/06/02/redhatfedora-drops-mono/ and http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/02/mono-an-infectious-disease/ you might think differently

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RE[2]: Why not?
by Slambert666 on Mon 15th Jun 2009 04:23 in reply to "RE: Why not?"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30



The only problem with Mono is Red Hat's large investment in Java technology and dropping market share vs. Novell.

Red Hat should market their product based on the features and advantages rather than underhanded character assassinations. It didn't work for Microsoft and it wont work for Red Hat.

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RE: Why not?
by MacMan on Sat 13th Jun 2009 15:51 in reply to "Why not?"
MacMan Member since:
2006-11-19

I too have a HUGE problem with gnuplot. It has some very useful plotting features, but because of their license, I can not modify or use any portion of it in my open source apps. Sure, I can use it as it is, and call it from the command line, but that is about it.

I think the name is extremely misleading, I wish the FSF would do something about a blatant use of the GNU name. Say I wrote some application, called "Fred", and I decided to call it "Microsoft Fred" you bet MS Layers would be all over me.

I think it is probably fair for any app released under GPL, or LGPL to call itself gnu****, but something that is for all intents and purposes closed source like gnuplot, certainly not.

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RE[2]: Why not?
by vivainio on Sat 13th Jun 2009 16:34 in reply to "RE: Why not?"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

I too have a HUGE problem with gnuplot.

Checked out matplotlib already?

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