Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 13:55 UTC
Internet Explorer Yesterday, Microsoft dropped a bomb by announcing that all versions of Windows 7 released in Europe would ship without Internet Explorer pre-installed. This was in answer to the EU antitrust investigation currently under way regarding possible illegal bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows. The first reactions to this news are coming in, with Opera and the EU both lamenting the move.
Thread beginning with comment 368565
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
scorched earth
by mabhatter on Mon 15th Jun 2009 04:34 UTC in reply to "The whole argument is getting old"
mabhatter
Member since:
2005-07-17

I am not a Microsoft fan by any stretch of the imagination, but in this day and age, people expect some basic things out of a PC they buy or OS they install, and one of those things is to be able to browse the internet immediately. I understand the non-competitive argument, but this takes away essential functionality.

If there is no browser bundled, how are you going to go download a browser? Are we going to see retail IE and Firefox packages now, like Netscape back in the day? Yes, the user deserves choice, but it makes no sense not to include a browser anymore.

I support making it easier to remove IE entirely in fresh Windows builds, and making it much easier for OEM's to install whatever browser they want, but out of the box, either way, there needs to be a browser, and the EU and Opera are just being naive to think their plans are good for the consumer.


They're playing at "scorched earth" here. Microsoft will remove IE from the retail product to make a scene. Then OEMS will turn around and install it right back again.... a few will install Opera or Firefox, but ALL will install IE because that's what customer will be told to expect in all the ads.

For retail copies, the first time you need Windows Update, or Silverlight you'll get IE on the "highly recommended" listing every single time until you give in.... or you pick automatic updates and get it anyway.

Microsoft will then point to how 95% of PCs sold are shipping IE because "customers want it" and how 95% of the retail customers download it the first time they update.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE: scorched earth
by strcpy on Mon 15th Jun 2009 07:07 in reply to "scorched earth"
strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20

But perhaps that is at least partially exactly what customers actually want?

That is to say, at least I do not believe the mantra of certain FOSS people; that poor Windows users would hypothetically immediately switch to another products if they are just "educated" about the choices.

Sometimes I just find the "sheep herd consumers" -thinking condescending, especially when coming from a bureaucracy such as EU.

Reply Parent Score: 1