Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Jun 2009 09:45 UTC
Windows Despite the generally positive reception of Windows 7 so far, there will still be many people who will want to stick to Windows XP. For these people, downgrade rights are particularly important, and Microsoft has confirmed the rules of the game to El Reg.
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kill Windows XP
by mono on Fri 19th Jun 2009 11:50 UTC
mono
Member since:
2005-10-19

I think they should kill Windows XP completely.
I was asked to buy 3 laptops with XP downgrade kit. First I tried them with Windows 7 and they were pretty fast (2GB of RAM, P8600 cpu). Then I installed the downgrade kit and they were amazingly embarrasing... so slow - especially the UI was annoyingly slow.
I think it's totally stupid to install XP on new laptops - even Vista is way quicker and more responsive than XP on these Core 2 Duo machines. Let alone the fact that XP can't get in the security game anymore.

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RE: kill Windows XP
by sukru on Fri 19th Jun 2009 12:00 in reply to "kill Windows XP"
sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

It's the "Vista Ready" program that killed the proper perception of performance in people's minds.

They no longer care about actual benchmark numbers, but only rants about how Vista is slow.

Fortunately Windows 7 has a positive "buzz", and I hope you're right and we all get rid of XP soon.

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RE: kill Windows XP
by hackus on Fri 19th Jun 2009 12:13 in reply to "kill Windows XP"
hackus Member since:
2006-06-28

I am sorry, but if you installed Windows XP on a laptop and it was slower than Windows Vista, it makes no technical sense whatsoever.

Windows XP as a OS kernel is WAY lighter on CPU requirements than Vista.

Show me a Netbook with Vista on it? Yeah I thought so.

The downgrade kit you got from Microsoft is probably dishonestly making the hardware perform poorly in some way with XP on purpose to get you to switch or bad mouth XP and buy Vista.

Vista a pile of DUNG. I have several systems with XP and Vista and Windows 7 on them.

Vista is not stable, it works poorly and I was appalled at how the last service pak upgrade went. Half my machines simple would not either install the service pak upgrade or failed after the installation.

All of the Windows XP software I have which works JUST FINE WITHOUT VISTA do not work properly with Vista's silly compatibility mode, which is a hunk of Junk.

Microsoft must think I am made of money so every two years I can upgrade to a new OS and re purchase all of my software, IF I CAN DO SO, for a X OS version flavor of the day to run on.

The only reason why Microsoft comes out with OS's anymore is because they can't make money actually building software that works.

I am sick and tired of this crap. I want Microsoft broken up into several companies so there is competition in the market place that actually understands a customers computing needs and provide software that works properly.

Linux doesn't have this problem. I have software from 1992 I am still using on my Linux box!

-Hack

Edited 2009-06-19 12:17 UTC

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RE[2]: kill Windows XP
by helf on Fri 19th Jun 2009 12:39 in reply to "RE: kill Windows XP"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

ooooooor, it could be that the display drivers weren't installed or weren't working correctly so it was running with VESA. But who knows. I take everything anyone says on the internet with about 25 kilos of salt.

Everyone has some stupid ass agenda OR is just trolling..

*sigh*

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RE[2]: kill Windows XP
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 19th Jun 2009 12:39 in reply to "RE: kill Windows XP"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I am sorry, but if you installed Windows XP on a laptop and it was slower than Windows Vista, it makes no technical sense whatsoever.

Windows XP as a OS kernel is WAY lighter on CPU requirements than Vista.


It makes perfect technical sense.

Windows XP was released in 2001. We are now in 2009. In those 8 years, the hardware landscape has changed massively, with the most important change being multicore processors. another important change is the use of the GPU to accelerate the UI.

The reason why XP is slower on modern hardware than 7 or even Vista is because XP doesn't take as much advantage of multicore processors as Vista/7 do. Similarly, Windows XP's UI is not accelerated by the GPU, meaning it'll be affected under load, and will show wear and tear all over the place.

Just because XP is lighter on resources doesn't mean it's universally faster on faster hardware. The world is more complicated than that.

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RE[2]: kill Windows XP
by ricegf on Fri 19th Jun 2009 21:08 in reply to "RE: kill Windows XP"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

@Hackus: "I have software from 1992 I am still using on my Linux box!"

Really? Which programs?

@Hackus: "Linux doesn't have this problem."

Of *course* it does. Do you really mean to assert that Linux has *never* deprecated an API? Seriously? Even if you are just talking about the kernel, and not a distribution such as Red Hat or Ubuntu, that's just remarkably naive.

Microsoft does a lot of things wrong, and I'm happy to bash them royally just on general principles. But complaining about Microsoft's inability to maintain backward compatibility with Windows, when that's one of their strengths, is just wrong.

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