Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Jul 2009 08:51 UTC, submitted by PLan
Mono Project We've already seen some heavy discussion on Mono and C# here on OSNews the past few weeks, as it became clear the patent situation regarding the ECMA parts of Mono was anything but faith inspiring. This issue seems to be resolved now: Microsoft has made a legally binding promise not to sue anyone who uses or distributes implementations of said ECMA standards. Following this news, Mono will be split in two; the ECMA standard parts, and the rest.
Thread beginning with comment 372048
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
stanbr
Member since:
2009-05-22

Yeah, I think I was not clear.

There are people out that (like Icaza) that wants fundamental softwares, like Gnome, to be created with C#/Mono. Right now we have mono installed on some Linux machines by default. Thats great for MS. Once linux/BSD (user-land) is too dependent under Mono, they could just shut it down... How? They will find a way :-)

I dont trust MS. Their past showed me its not a company I can trust. So why use their technology? They copied most of it from other languages anyway, so why not use Java, Ruby, C++, Object-C, Object-Pascal, Python, Smalltalk, ..?

Reply Parent Score: -1

sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

"They copied most of it from other languages anyway, so why not use Java, Ruby, C++, Object-C, Object-Pascal, Python, Smalltalk, ..?"

You meant IKVM, IronRuby, C++/CLI, Oxygene, IronPython, S#, right?

Ok, just kidding. But to let you know, the current project I'm working on uses C#, Python, Java, and JavaScript under the same code base thanks to .Net architecture.

Reply Parent Score: 2

stanbr Member since:
2009-05-22

Technicly speaking, you could use other languages to develop for the JVM too. It may not be that easy (since the JVM was not made from ground zero to be multi-lingual) but It can be done, and there are some compilers around. Some real examples are listed here: http://www.is-research.de/info/vmlanguages/?s=compile

So if what we need is a VM where wecan use many languages, we could create our own or extend JVM or some other VM. No reason to jump to a "not-so-open" solution created by evil itself.

Reply Parent Score: -1

memson Member since:
2006-01-01

They copied most of it from other languages anyway, so why not use Java, Ruby, C++, Object-C, Object-Pascal, Python, Smalltalk, ..?


Java copied Smalltalk. Objective-C *seriously* ripped off Smalltalk. Object Pascal was originally an Apple project that Borland ripped off, reshaped, remolded in the the Delphi variant. Python and Ruby I don't know at all, but from casual looking seem pretty similar in syntax.

C# took ideas from a number of places... C for syntax, Java for class extensions in part, C++ in other ways. Object Pascal in a lot of ways too (though the C#/.Net architect also invented the Delphi Object Pascal syntax extensions, so that is hardly surprising..)

Nothing is original any more and using that as an excuse is not valid.

Reply Parent Score: 6