Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th Jul 2009 21:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Earlier this year, it became known that the Palm Pre, engineered by a number of ex-Apple engineers, could interface with Apple's iTunes as if it was an iPod. Everybody more or less expected Apple to block the Pre from syncing with iTunes, but I don't think any of us had anticipated just how forthright Apple would be about it.
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RE: Is it just me or...
by JonathanBThompson on Thu 16th Jul 2009 01:06 UTC in reply to "Is it just me or..."
JonathanBThompson
Member since:
2006-05-26

When did Microsoft release Java, and whose implementation did they release (ie. was it Sun-approved)?

Apple is not the one to complain to when it comes to releasing Java for OSX: they are not the creators of Java. If Linux distros want to include it, that's entirely up to those distro makers:they aren't responsible for including and developing Java for the platform, either, unless it is a Sun-provided distro.

Apple isn't legally or morally required to support non-Apple music devices via iTunes, as part of iTunes was by design meant to support Apple's hardware, like it or not: regardless of the hardware support for other types of devices, it still functions for the music collection and playback functionality on computers running OSX and Windows mutations, and Apple is not preventing Palm from creating and distributing their own OSX-based Palm PreĀ“ music app that works with another music file provider and their devices to manage them: I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps some of Apple's music partners want to ensure that their music is strictly controlled as to what types of devices it is stored/played on, and how many times: if something downloaded from iTunes is protected/signed somehow, they likely have contract requirements that Apple must fulfill for at least attempting to control how things are managed via iTunes, and if you couple all that with Apple reasonably wanting to reserve the right to not be blamed for anything that doesn't work on other devices that they didn't make, while perhaps adding/changing how iTunes works, well... this whole whining about iTunes not working with Palm's devices is all sour grapes.

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RE[2]: Is it just me or...
by dvhh on Thu 16th Jul 2009 01:40 in reply to "RE: Is it just me or..."
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

I this we slightly enter the apple distortion field here

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JonathanBThompson Member since:
2006-05-26

I this we slightly enter the apple distortion field here


At least the others that replied created full sentences and did some research to attack my statements, instead of just accusing me of being a fan boy with a sentence that would cause a grammar parser to gasp, along with no punctuation!

Have you actually got something intelligible to comment, or are you just an anti-Apple troll?

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Uhm. Yes Apple is repsonsible for Java on their platform

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Notice how sun provides updates for every other platform. Apple creates its own version, which dealt with the intel/ppc 32/64 stuff and made java more a part of the OS.

Yes, Microsoft did the same thing, only worse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B

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RE[3]: Is it just me or...
by runjorel on Fri 17th Jul 2009 14:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Is it just me or..."
runjorel Member since:
2009-02-09

Uhm. Yes Apple is repsonsible for Java on their platform...Yes, Microsoft did the same thing, only worse...


I think the biggest difference though is that with Windows you had/have a choice: you could choose IBM's java, Microsoft's java, or Sun's java, etc. With Apple, you had to wait for them to release Java for macs and even then they never made any announcements or updates on the matter. They're response to their users was pretty much a "it comes when it comes" type answer. Anyhow

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RE[2]: Is it just me or...
by Machster on Thu 16th Jul 2009 13:02 in reply to "RE: Is it just me or..."
Machster Member since:
2007-05-15


Apple isn't legally or morally required to support non-Apple music devices via iTunes


But isn't not supporting different from deliberate blocking? Maybe we ought to ask Intel.

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RE[3]: Is it just me or...
by memson on Thu 16th Jul 2009 13:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Is it just me or..."
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

But isn't not supporting different from deliberate blocking? Maybe we ought to ask Intel.


No. If I don't "support" * you, would I let you live in my house, eat my food and sleep in my bed? No, I would lock my door and tell you to go somewhere else if you tried to gain access. If you broke in to my house, you would be fair game.

* Support - yes I have slightly twisted your meaning, but essentially the analogy stands.

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